Better off Financially living apart or as a couple?

viktory

mummytohollieandpinkbump wrote: »

hi sorry posting again but why should he work fulltime.

Are you serious?????? I will assume you are and will answer honestly - he should work full time to provide for the child he and his girlfriend created together. He should provide them with all the essentials that a parent provides, a roof over their head, bills paid, food on the table etc. Why should the tax payer pay for all this when the OP is clearly quite able to work? This is madness!!!

Believe it or not, even working full time there is still time to spend quality time with your family. Millions manage it.

astonsmummy

Becles wrote: »

Why did you have a baby if you couldn't afford to pay for one? I presume from your sig that there is another baby on the way? Just curious.

sorry but why is it anyones business why she had a baby, i doubt very much many people can actually afford to have a baby when they do.
I couldnt afford to have aston when i did, his dad left me pregnant and i had to claim benefits, i now work part time and claim tax credits, shoould i hve aborted him or given him to a 'rich family' because 'everyone else' is paying for him :rolleyes:

I may not earn loads to pay tax on but what would the holier than thou posters rather.
1. I sit on my fat aris all day doing sod all and getting social money or
2. going out to work (part time) as a homecare worker, claiming tax credits, starting and NVQ in next week, hopefully going on to do nursing once aston is in full time school in other words BETTERING MYSELF for me and my son.

astonsmummy

Becles wrote: »

People should work full time to provide an income to pay for their family needs.

We have a 9 week old babyl, plus two older children. My husband works full time during the week, then works weekend evenings. He does that to provide for us. He still has plenty of time with the children. Yesterday he was out play tennis in the street with the older ones, and he played with the baby in her gym then took her for a walk with our dogs.

Becales you should thank yoursef lucky that you have that, even if i worked fulll time i would get tax credits as i'm a lone parent.

kelloggs36

mummytohollieandpinkbump wrote: »

hi sorry posting again but why should he work fulltime.

my partner worked monday to friday 2pm-10pm. he would leave at dinnertime not get back til 11pm and me or my daughter hardly saw him and at weekends he would be too tired to do family things. he is now working weekends although thankfully getting paid the same. the only reason for this so we can be a family and so my daughter can form a proper bond with him which she has and she adores him.

i know not the same situation as craig as he is living apart. but what if he got a full time job and be living apart from his partner and son that would be even worse. when would he have free time to go see them?

he will still be getting self respect,confidence etc etc in a part time job.

like i say his family come first whether he claims benefits or not,works part time or full time or even not at all if he chooses.what happened to putting family first or is craig the only one.(apart from me of course coz my family always come first:o )

luv leigh,hollie and pink bump x x x

Because you need the money to live on? What a stupid question. Why does ANYBODY work full-time? It doesn't matter if you have a family or not, if yo need money and have a job then you work what hours you can. I think you will find that the vast majority of people who work with families work full-time but not because they love their jobs so much, but to enable them to pay their way and to ensure their families live in security as much as possible. Some people earn more than others and may have the luxury of not having to work extra hours or overtime, some people work where they need to travel more than 10 minutes down the road - because that is where the money is so their time spent with the family is unfortunately limited - THAT IS LIFE AND GET ON WITH IT!!!!! If you WANT to work part time to spend more time with the family then do it BUT DON'T EXPECT EVERYBODY ELSE TO SUBSIDISE YOU!!! It shouldn't be a choice between supporting yourself by getting a full-time job or claiming benefits (including tax credits) to spend more time on your backside at home!! What on Earth has this World come to when people believe that it is their RIGHT to spend time with their families RATHER than work to support them.

I have NO issues whatsoever with those who have low paid jobs who are forced to claim top up benefits - employers should pay a decent wage (but that's another debate), that is where the money should be going, on hard working FAMILIES (including single parent families WHEN THEY ARE GENUINE).

azjh77

I would like to point out that plenty of people work full time and get tax credits...I was working 40 hours a week but needed the top up from TC because the wages were crap. (yes I could of got 'a better job' 'a 2nd job' 'sold a kidney' etc, anything BUT not claim the tax payers money... ) But the point is, while companies get away with paying crap wages people will need to be topped up just to live. My company made billions of pounds last year (think, 'quote me happy') and my 'bonus' was £10...

The government should reduce tax, and make companies making silly money pay their staff properly... then we wouldn't have to claim.

viktory

mummytohollieandpinkbump wrote: »

.....so my daughter can form a proper bond with him which she has and she adores him.

My husband works full time and has done for years. He has an excellent bond with both our children.

mummytohollieandpinkbump wrote: »

i now am a stay at home mum as i dont want to miss out on the first few years of my daughter and her soon to be sisters first years. The only benefits i recieve are child benefit (which everyone is entilted to) and tax credits which pay for my daughters clothes,nappies,wipes,food etc.

My sister in law had a much longed for baby. She would have loved to stay at home and enjoy his first years but had to go to work to provide for the child she planned. She hasn't relied on the tax payer to support her family, she, and my brother, pay their way. Posts like yours do make me angry as you appear to think that tax credits are a good excuse not to work. If your partner cannot support you and your children, then you should work and pay your way, not rely on the tax payer. You choose to have children, they are your children and therefore your responsibility.

milkydrink

mummytohollieandpinkbump wrote: »

hi sorry posting again but why should he work fulltime. Is this a serious question:rotfl:

my partner worked monday to friday 2pm-10pm. he would leave at dinnertime not get back til 11pm and me or my daughter hardly saw him and at weekends he would be too tired to do family things. he is now working weekends although thankfully getting paid the same. the only reason for this so we can be a family and so my daughter can form a proper bond with him which she has and she adores him.

i know not the same situation as craig as he is living apart. but what if he got a full time job and be living apart from his partner and son that would be even worse. when would he have free time to go see them?

he will still be getting self respect,confidence etc etc in a part time job.

like i say his family come first whether he claims benefits or not,works part time or full time or even not at all if he chooses.what happened to putting family first or is craig the only one.(apart from me of course coz my family always come first:o )

luv leigh,hollie and pink bump x x x

Putting their families first is what millions of parents do when they get up at unsociable hours & go off & do a hard days (or nights) work to put food on the table & a roof over their families heads.
What has happened to our society that so many people think that its fine to raise their children on benefits so they will have plenty of free time. While other PARENTS are working their butts off & a portion of their taxes is going to keep these lazy beggers at home.

viktory

kimevans wrote: »

Putting their families first is what millions of parents do when they get up at unsociable hours & go off & do a hard days (or nights) work to put food on the table & a roof over their families heads.
What has happened to our society that so many people think that its fine to raise their children on benefits so they will have plenty of free time. While other PARENTS are working their butts off & a portion of their taxes is going to keep these lazy beggers at home.

I totally agree. This country has gone from one extreme to the other. I can remember my father suffering a slipped disc. He was told to have complete bed rest for 6 weeks. His work would not pay him for the sick leave and when Mum went to the benefits office, she was told that they were entitled to about a pound or so a week. Clearly this was not enough, so Dad got up and went back to work - he had to, he had no choice! Mum worked an evening shift from 6-10 five days a week to supplement Dad's wages for years. I was six weeks old when she went back to work and Mum had 3 other young children to care for.

Now, I am not suggesting that we go back to those days, of couse not. BUT, we, as a country, have gone from one extreme to another. People believe that is is their right to work part time, if they choose. Or not work at all. It really is all wrong.

milkydrink

astonsmummy wrote: »

sorry but why is it anyones business why she had a baby, i doubt very much many people can actually afford to have a baby when they do.
I couldnt afford to have aston when i did, his dad left me pregnant and i had to claim benefits, i now work part time and claim tax credits, shoould i hve aborted him or given him to a 'rich family' because 'everyone else' is paying for him :rolleyes:

I may not earn loads to pay tax on but what would the holier than thou posters rather.
1. I sit on my fat aris all day doing sod all and getting social money or
2. going out to work (part time) as a homecare worker, claiming tax credits, starting and NVQ in next week, hopefully going on to do nursing once aston is in full time school in other words BETTERING MYSELF for me and my son.

Their is a difference between finding yourself & your children (or soon to be children) in reduced circumstance & ACTUALLY planning on having babies for the tax payer to support & raise.
You are a single mum now who works part-time. Most of these posters saying its OK are from men (or so called) & women who don't work at all.
The pregnant one says its nice to be a SAHM, I'm sure it is. You work & I had to when my DD was 2, but SHE uses the benefits system to give her a choice.
I would have like to have been a SAHM mum too, I'm sure you would have.
You aren't knocking out one child after an other for the tax payer to support.
The safety net of the DSS is there to help people like you who found themselves in an unfortunate position & need a hand for a while to get back on their feet.
These posters are having children to raise on benefits & we have a father who runs two homes & wants to work out the best way to maximise his benefits and a mother who chooses to stay at home & have multiple children as the tax payer provides daughters clothes,nappies,wipes,food etc.

astonsmummy

kimevans wrote: »

Their is a difference between finding yourself & your children (or soon to be children) in reduced circumstance & ACTUALLY planning on having babies for the tax payer to support & raise.
You are a single mum now who works part-time. Most of these posters saying its OK are from men (or so called) & women who don't work at all.
The pregnant one says its nice to be a SAHM, I'm sure it is. You work & I had to when my DD was 2, but SHE uses the benefits system to give her a choice.
I would have like to have been a SAHM mum too, I'm sure you would have.
You aren't knocking out one child after an other for the tax payer to support.
The safety net of the DSS is there to help people like you who found themselves in an unfortunate position & need a hand for a while to get back on their feet.
These posters are having children to raise on benefits & we have a father who runs two homes & wants to work out the best way to maximise his benefits and a mother who chooses to stay at home & have multiple children as the tax payer provides daughters clothes,nappies,wipes,food etc.

sorry i just got the impression from some that claiming tax credits was seen as the same as claiming dss benefits, i sometimes feel like i cant win.