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  • aileth
    aileth Posts: 2,822 Forumite
    Poppie68 wrote: »
    The poor thing will end up with rotten baby teeth......I don't understand what goes through some parents mind. My grandaughter is 15 month old and her 'juice' is water, she has never had any other drink apart from milk.

    When I was growing up, I was never allowed ANY fizzy drinks unless we went out for a meal as a treat (which wasn't often by any stretch). It was always cordial or water. Fizzy drinks were a luxury to me and my sister.

    My husband however was basically left to roam free on such things and has ended up destroying his teeth, needed extensive dental work from damage done to them when he was growing up. He used to drink 2-4 litres of coke a day when he was in secondary school.

    It's a really big deal.
  • Morglin
    Morglin Posts: 15,925 Forumite
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    Yes, and poverty (or not) is no excuse to live in squalor, especially when there is always the obligatory mangy dog in situ, no doubt merrily crapping everywhere...:mad:

    I wonder at blokes that really feel it's ok to keep knocking out kids, and then ignoring them. Real men would surely take responsibility.

    The other point is that all the adults are so ill-kempt, grubby and unattractive - I don't even know how they find anyone to have sex either them, gala the time lol

    They cannot all be beer goggle shags!:T

    Lin ;)
    You can tell a lot about a woman by her hands..........for instance, if they are placed around your throat, she's probably slightly upset. ;)
  • Morglin
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    aileth wrote: »
    When I was growing up, I was never allowed ANY fizzy drinks unless we went out for a meal as a treat (which wasn't often by any stretch). It was always cordial or water. Fizzy drinks were a luxury to me and my sister.

    My husband however was basically left to roam free on such things and has ended up destroying his teeth, needed extensive dental work from damage done to them when he was growing up. He used to drink 2-4 litres of coke a day when he was in secondary school.

    It's a really big deal.


    I think it can be genetic as well, though - my ex was fed crap by his own parents - could eat or drink anything, as a child.

    In the 30 years I was with him, he never needed a filling or anything else, and had a beautiful set of teeth (which he has thankfully passed to my kids, as they are 40ish and have never needed a filling or anything either!)

    Lucky them, unlike me, well bought up and yet spend half my life at the dentist lol:eek:

    Lin :)
    You can tell a lot about a woman by her hands..........for instance, if they are placed around your throat, she's probably slightly upset. ;)
  • Poppie68
    Poppie68 Posts: 4,881 Forumite
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    Morglin wrote: »
    I agree passive smoking isn't a good thing, any more than alcohol abuse is, or feeding kids junk food is....the list goes on.

    But, in the sliding scale of child abuse, after working with it, it comes a fair way down my list of 'abuse'.

    It's also the case that it wasn't that long ago, that smoking wasn't considered particularly harmful in pregnancy etc., - certainly not when I was pregnant, in the early 70's.

    Thankfully, most babies before, then or after, survived healthily regardless, which still doesn't make it desirable, but, unlike hard drug addicted mums to be and parents, it doesn't make it a dead cert that it will cause a child to suffer, one way or another.

    Lin :)


    I mentioned the smoking because it was an issue for me when i watched the programme..It is a personal bug bear for me when i see smoking in an enclosed space with children around or seeing a pregnant woman/girl with a cig hanging out of their mouth i just think they must be either uneducated or been living in a bubble to not know it is not exceptable and may cause harm to the baby.
  • sulphate
    sulphate Posts: 1,235 Forumite
    If someone does something wrong, whether falsely claiming benefits or stealing something, the only person responsible is the perpetrator.

    Of course they are responsible, but the welfare system is also responsible for allowing it to continue without putting the proper checks in. Just like a criminal is responsible for their crimes, but it's up to the justice system to punish accordingly.

    The fact that many of these people don't claim JSA but can live more comfortably on other benefits than they would if they worked IS the fault of the welfare system.
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    Morglin wrote: »
    It's wonderful for the government, because despite the facts that these families are a small minority, it suits their purpose to portray anyone on ANY sort of benefits (including those working, getting TC top ups, which the government regard them as handouts) as scroungers and failures.

    They are handouts! You can earn income tax free (up to £10k a year) and get tax credits on top when you've paid no tax! Depending on number of kids the TCs can be greater than the pay every month. How is that not a handout?!
    Trying to be a man is a waste of a woman
  • gingin_2
    gingin_2 Posts: 2,992 Forumite
    edited 25 June 2014 at 9:41AM
    Did anyone see Martin Lewis' guest appearance on there? .... He was on one of the TV's at the start.
  • Morglin
    Morglin Posts: 15,925 Forumite
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    They are handouts! You can earn income tax free (up to £10k a year) and get tax credits on top when you've paid no tax! Depending on number of kids the TCs can be greater than the pay every month. How is that not a handout?!

    Well, that's an opinion you may hold, but this government sees contributory benefits, and pensions (which HAVE been paid in for) as 'handouts' as well.:mad:

    Funnily enough, they don't view their salaries, expenses and subsidies that way tho.....:wall:

    Lin ;)
    You can tell a lot about a woman by her hands..........for instance, if they are placed around your throat, she's probably slightly upset. ;)
  • aileth
    aileth Posts: 2,822 Forumite
    Morglin wrote: »
    I think it can be genetic as well, though - my ex was fed crap by his own parents - could eat or drink anything, as a child.

    In the 30 years I was with him, he never needed a filling or anything else, and had a beautiful set of teeth (which he has thankfully passed to my kids, as they are 40ish and have never needed a filling or anything either!)

    Lucky them, unlike me, well bought up and yet spend half my life at the dentist lol:eek:

    Lin :)

    Yes I think one of the problems is the way he actually drinks, it's like he 'sups' from cups, essentially pulling the liquid over his front teeth, which is where the most damage is. He's tried really hard to break the habit, but still lapses, not sure whether it's part of his upbringing which is why he drinks that way.
  • eamon
    eamon Posts: 2,325 Forumite
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    I dispute the Godwins law reference. I was alluding to the almost incessant media mauling of benefit claimants and their "lifestyles". The unmentioned story is to demonise them as "others" and somehow not "us". Why pick on them and not the rich landord (or Agri business) pocketing millions in EU agricultural subsidies? State benefits by another name I think.
    Its disingenuous TV at best.
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