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Life on the dole!!

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  • sulphate
    sulphate Posts: 1,235 Forumite
    pukkamum wrote: »
    See that is where facebook is a very useful tool in seeing what a persons views truly are and also how influenced by others they are.
    I like you would never have thought people i knew could have views like that.

    But people who are intelligent professionals who have those views, despite many academic and work related achievements to their name may not actually be very bright emotionally/in other areas. Several people I know are intelligent/Oxbridge educated etc and they are very self absorbed, immature and couldn't organise a !!!! up in a brewery.

    Not everyone is the same but everyone has strengths and weaknesses. I don't really understand the concept of someone who is smart should have certain views/affiliations.

    The title of the show is misleading, the dole is job seekers allowance, most people on the programme last night weren't on job seekers allowance because they weren't looking for work. They got their money from child benefit, housing benefit, council tax benefit and whatever else they were entitled to. I certainly couldn't live on job seekers allowance and don't know anyone who could unless they were living with their parents and had minimal expenses.
  • Poppie68
    Poppie68 Posts: 4,881 Forumite
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    Morglin wrote: »
    Lol - perhaps we should start to ban things like Heroin, crack etc., first?

    Many of us thrived in tobacco filled homes, but from my years in child protection, no child ever thrived in a 'hard drugs' home....:whistle:

    Lin ;)



    It should be viewed as abuse...passive smoke has been linked through research over the years as responsible for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, serious lung nfections and even Crohns Disease..
    Smoking in pregnancy should also be banned...when i daughter was in hospital last year having her baby she spent 5 days there...i spent every day all day with her and every time i went out to my car or for a drink etc i had to wade through the scores of big bellied mothers to be who were puffing away after ignoring the midwives who were trying to encourage them not to go out for one.
    It's actually a little upsetting to watch knowing were that smokes going...if wanting to protect babies and children by banning smoking around them is me wanting to conform to a nanny state well, where do i sign up!
  • whodathunkit
    whodathunkit Posts: 1,130 Forumite
    sulphate wrote: »
    But people who are intelligent professionals who have those views, despite many academic and work related achievements to their name may not actually be very bright emotionally/in other areas. Several people I know are intelligent/Oxbridge educated etc and they are very self absorbed, immature and couldn't organise a !!!! up in a brewery.

    Not everyone is the same but everyone has strengths and weaknesses. I don't really understand the concept of someone who is smart should have certain views/affiliations.

    The title of the show is misleading, the dole is job seekers allowance, most people on the programme last night weren't on job seekers allowance because they weren't looking for work. They got their money from child benefit, housing benefit, council tax benefit and whatever else they were entitled to. I certainly couldn't live on job seekers allowance and don't know anyone who could unless they were living with their parents and had minimal expenses.

    I'lll think you'll find that many of them were actually claiming JSA as well, whether actually looking for work or not.
  • Poppie68
    Poppie68 Posts: 4,881 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    sulphate wrote: »
    But people who are intelligent professionals who have those views, despite many academic and work related achievements to their name may not actually be very bright emotionally/in other areas. Several people I know are intelligent/Oxbridge educated etc and they are very self absorbed, immature and couldn't organise a !!!! up in a brewery.

    Not everyone is the same but everyone has strengths and weaknesses. I don't really understand the concept of someone who is smart should have certain views/affiliations.

    The title of the show is misleading, the dole is job seekers allowance, most people on the programme last night weren't on job seekers allowance because they weren't looking for work. They got their money from child benefit, housing benefit, council tax benefit and whatever else they were entitled to. I certainly couldn't live on job seekers allowance and don't know anyone who could unless they were living with their parents and had minimal expenses.




    I agree, i don't think any of them apart from the older kids were on JSA...
    Channel 5 do seem to like the 'gritty' side of life...I suppose filiming someone who has lost their job of 20 years or so and struggling to find work and scraping by and making the weekly trip to the foodbank is'nt controversial enough, it's not going to rile the people and ensure the viewing numbers for next weeks episode!
  • sulphate
    sulphate Posts: 1,235 Forumite
    I'lll think you'll find that many of them were actually claiming JSA as well, whether actually looking for work or not.

    But like I said few people can actually live off that alone.

    If they are claiming JSA but not bothering to look for work then that's the fault of the system/job centre that allows them to do that because they are supposed to attend a job centre every fortnight at least to show how they have been looking for work.

    The phrase "benefit scrounger" is becoming more and more well used but the simple fact is that benefit scroungers wouldn't exist if the system didn't allow them to do exactly that.

    Would I like to live in a house that looked like it had never been cleaned, having 8 kids etc in 3-4 bedrooms? No thanks.
  • thedogsmum
    thedogsmum Posts: 363 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker I've been Money Tipped!
    And, there's another three programmes to go......
  • jackieblack
    jackieblack Posts: 10,665 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    pukkamum wrote: »
    Yes I do.
    No I don't.

    Really?
    Well, we'll have to agree to differ on that point as well then.
    Everything will be alright in the end so, if it’s not yet alright, it means it’s not yet the end
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  • Buzzybee90
    Buzzybee90 Posts: 1,652 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Anyone with a brain knows that not everyone on benefits is a scummy chav but that doesn't excuse the fact that some of them are, these programmes are deliberately inflammatory but they aren't magicing these people from thin air.

    Jeremy Kyle features about ten of them a day!
  • Quiet_Spark
    Quiet_Spark Posts: 1,093 Forumite
    Buzzybee90 wrote: »
    Jeremy Kyle features about ten of them a day!
    If it wasn't for the "chavs" and all the "people who should be at work", he wouldn't have a show.
    Understeer is when you hit a wall with the front of your car
    Oversteer is when you hit a wall with the back of your car
    Horsepower is how fast your car hits the wall
    Torque is how far your car sends the wall across the field once you've hit it
  • Buzzybee90
    Buzzybee90 Posts: 1,652 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    If it wasn't for the "chavs" and all the "people who should be at work", he wouldn't have a show.

    Exactly, another reason we need to clean up the system :p
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