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  • Person_one
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    FBaby wrote: »
    Ironically, if he married her, then discovered that she did have a bad spending habit and got them in bad debts, how many posters would then say 'well you knew this before, so why did you marry her?'

    Um, none, surely, as it wouldn't be true...
  • Person_one
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    edited 5 June 2014 at 8:22AM
    PenguinJim wrote: »
    I am surprised you have internet access in the old-fashioned backwater you have just described. :eek: Your RL name isn't Wilma by any chance?

    I feel that people like you purporting stereotypes really do contribute to the problem of gender imbalance in housework. Don't you see a problem?

    Gosh how rude.

    Do you have any idea how patronising you sound? Do you care?

    As someone who is clearly a great believer in gender equality, why don't you do some reading and find out more about the many challenges and inequalities that still exist (beyond your own relationship, because of course I'm sure you realise the issue is bigger than you and your partner.)
  • Person_one
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    FBaby wrote: »
    I think many women like to do everything just so that they can then play martyr :) It's a bit the same with children, when they clear up their kids' bedroom and then moan that their kids never do it so they have to do it...

    I've seen capable, working, adult women in tears of frustration and sadness at how difficult it is to get the rest of their family to contribute a fair share to the chores.
  • quidsy
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    They'll just be martyrs though P1. Cause you know, it doesn't happen in their life so it can't happen at all or must be old fashioned, older generation problem. Oh wait, the op, who is mid 20's posted her oh has the same "ignore" function when it comes to chores.

    The sheer lack of education on what is still a real issue is troublesome, especially in women, next there will be claims that the glass ceiling has been smashed, women don't experience sexual harrassment in many areas of their daily lives & all the other things that still need working on based ont he idea that they haven't (knowingly) experienced it, but hey, stop being mean to those poor defenceless men right, all those martyrs or wives who mummy their man, or who have "gosh" high standards of cleanliness are the problem. Obviously it's the womens fault again!

    Mind boggling.
    I don't respond to stupid so that's why I am ignoring you.

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  • Person_one
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    Well we've already heard that there's no pay gap! Isn't that good news?
  • PenguinJim
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    Person_one wrote: »
    Gosh how rude.

    Do you have any idea how patronising you sound? Do you care?
    Having read some of your rude, patronising, hypocritical man-hating posts today, I'm amazed that you've gone on to write this, and quite simply have no response.
    Person_one wrote: »
    As someone who is clearly a great believer in gender equality, why don't you do some reading and find out more about the many challenges and inequalities that still exist (beyond your own relationship, because of course I'm sure you realise the issue is bigger than you and your partner.)

    I currently live in Taiwan, where the gender housework-gap (and the wage-gap) is so much larger than in the UK (and Australia, where I have also lived). I don't have much free time as I work a 66-hour week (and also do the majority of the housework, coincidentally enough), but when I get the chance I try to involve myself in local discussion groups on the subject, as I find the sexism here to be utterly abhorrent. Your own sexism on this forum is a mere trifle by comparison.

    Beyond blaming the problem on stereotypes of weak women and lazy men, do you happen to do something about it?
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  • quidsy
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    edited 5 June 2014 at 9:23AM
    Beyond blaming the problem on stereotypes of weak women and lazy men, do you happen to do something about it?

    No one has blamed the problem on that, so don't project so much but the issue does exist in UK, even if it isn't as bad as in some other nations, there is no such thing as a "little" bit of gender inequality. It exists.

    I don't blame weak men on anything only that men & women view things differently, this is based on my own observations of varying social spectrums. There are several reasons for this, nuture, peer pressure, advertising, television & magazine stereotyping for a few.

    I actually mentor young women so am well aware of the "expectations" many of them are facing from boyfriends. These are late teen to early 20's young women, so it exists in the younger masses & horrifyingly there has been an upward trend of increased mysogyny & sexual/mental abuse & pressure that women of my generation (30's) very rarely experienced but I do not deny their experiences because of my own lack of reference.

    It is not about blaming men but addressing a series of interconnected issues that many women face & many are so conditioned that they aren't really aware of it. The problem is not going away & that is partly due to the denials of it even still existing.
    I don't respond to stupid so that's why I am ignoring you.

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  • FBaby
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    Person_one wrote: »
    I've seen capable, working, adult women in tears of frustration and sadness at how difficult it is to get the rest of their family to contribute a fair share to the chores.

    Oh dear then clearly if after such sorrow and desperation to get help nothing comes forward the issue is much deeper than one of cos allocation but one of lack of respect as a whole. Saying that hair often forms so when suddenly the one sound everything decides they are suddenly not happy with it it might take some time to undo the bad habit.
  • FBaby
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    edited 5 June 2014 at 9:45AM
    Maybe these poor women left with doing all the chores by their selfish husband should have not rushed into marriage and lived with them long enough to realise what they were getting into.
  • FBaby
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    Maybe if more women were prepared to work full time they might have more of an argument about equality at home.
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