How much to pay a live in carer

Morglin

SingleSue wrote: »

It really isn't, you said you cannot get IS and Carers allowance at the same time....you can!

MY IS award is reduced by £61.35 and the last time I looked, £72.40 minus £61.35 still leaves £11.05 Income support before the carers premium is added on.

They arrive as seperate entities on my bank statement and on different days, not as one sum. Income support of £90.50 every fortnight and £61.35 of Carers Allowance every Tuesday.

You are right - they are separate payments, and all that happens is that if they are 'overlapping' benefits, one may be reduced to take account of the other.

But, both benefits remain in play.

Lin

nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

WRONG. CA as I said cannot be paid to someone who is in receipt of IS. You will not get any money instead you will only get carers premium. That's because you cannot get CA if your income, even if its true income support (IS), is above 400 a month. If you've been in receipt of both CA and IS and have been getting paid for both (getting actual money), then they'll probably claim it back or something.

WRONG!
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CA is the primary benefit as it is not means tested.
once awarded, the claimants total income will then be looked at.
if it is just CA, then an income support top up is paid to bring the income up to the level that the government say an individual needs to live off ( the basic level of IS)
THEN because CA is in payment a further carers premium will be added to the claim.
CA cannot be paid if EARNINGS are above £400 a week. means tested benefit is NOT earnings and is not taxable income and so does not affect entitlement to CA.
so..
CA
plus
IS top up
plus
Carers premium.
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nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

ENTIRELY WRONG. CRB is required even if employing directly.

again WRONG
CRB is advised but not a requirement.

nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

https://www.gov.uk/carers-allowance/what-youll-get



Look abvoe in bold. I was right, you CANNOT get IS as it gets reduced by amount of CA therefore cancelling it out. In other words you just get carers premium.

As usual I was right all along!!!! Now that link I gave is a .gov link, anyone contradicting that must come up with something more concrete!

as usual you are WRONG.
CA does NOT cancel out IS as IS is paid at a higher rate than CA meaning that an IS 'top up' is still paid

nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

There you go, and thats EXACTLY what I said all along.

Honestly I...I'm just amazed its like everyone has a moral obligation here to disagree with me and say it in another way to come to the same conclusion which I was saying all along really.

that wasnt what you said.
you said that IS CANNOT be claimed whilst receiving CA, but only the addition carers premium will be added.
the fact is that CA, an IS top up PLUS a carers premium will be in payment.
the amount of IS is reduced by the CA, but around £12 a week IS will be paid PLUS the carers premim of around £35 a week nringing total weekly benefit entitlement to around £107

Icequeen99

sh1981 wrote: »

That is COMPLETELY WRONG. You are paid higher or all the qualifying benefits, keyword being higher, nothing to do with means tested. I'm absolutely right.

Moreover you need to remember that I have been blessed with an IQ of 368 and answer all questions with extreme precision! I have a history of being right 99.999% of the time. Just saying.

I haven't read all of the thread but I'm just trying to understand where the disagreement is here.

CA is an earnings replacement benefit. You normally can't get more than one earnings replacement benefit at the same time because they overlap. ERB that are based on NI contributions are paid in preference to non-NI contribution ones. Where you are entitled to two overlapping benefits - you are right that the higher benefit is paid. In that case if CA was the lower benefit you would just have an underlying entitlement to it.

But CA and IS are not overlapping benefits. So the same rules don't quite apply. You can get CA and you can get IS at the same time, it is just that CA is taken into account as income when calculating IS although you do get the carer premium.

IQ

Indie_Kid

nannytone wrote: »

CA cannot be paid if EARNINGS are above £400 a week. means tested benefit is NOT earnings and is not taxable income and so does not affect entitlement to CA.

It's actually £102 per week after certain deductions. (I have a feeling you've just made a typo and do know what you're talking about)

elsien

There isn't a genuine disagreement. Just one person making it up as they go along for the fun of it. sh1981 is posting similar remarks on other threads on the forum.

karren

Sorry but sounds . Like your brother has financially exploited your parents

sh1981

Icequeen99 wrote: »

I haven't read all of the thread but I'm just trying to understand where the disagreement is here.

CA is an earnings replacement benefit. You normally can't get more than one earnings replacement benefit at the same time because they overlap. ERB that are based on NI contributions are paid in preference to non-NI contribution ones. Where you are entitled to two overlapping benefits - you are right that the higher benefit is paid. In that case if CA was the lower benefit you would just have an underlying entitlement to it.

But CA and IS are not overlapping benefits. So the same rules don't quite apply. You can get CA and you can get IS at the same time, it is just that CA is taken into account as income when calculating IS although you do get the carer premium.

IQ

Icequeen that's what I've been saying all along. But Morglin and Nannytone have created a gang against me and they constantly bully me and ridicule me on whatever I write but despite the emotional distraught they've put me through I still come here to help people out whenever I can