How much to pay a live in carer

margaretclare

This has all degenerated into irrelevancies.

The original title of the thread is 'How much to pay a live-in carer?' This, to me, implies an employed person. We've had pages and pages of whether carer's allowance can/can't be paid at the same time as income support. But someone who was being paid to do a residential job as a carer, looking after someone in his/her own home, would be getting a wage, not a benefit.

Pages back, the person who has taken up the biggest share of verbiage on this thread said that 'the carer sleeps when the caree sleeps'. Not necessarily. You've obviously never done shifts on nights when you had to stay awake and the people in your care were asleep.

sh1981

margaretclare wrote: »

This has all degenerated into irrelevancies.

The original title of the thread is 'How much to pay a live-in carer?' This, to me, implies an employed person. We've had pages and pages of whether carer's allowance can/can't be paid at the same time as income support. But someone who was being paid to do a residential job as a carer, looking after someone in his/her own home, would be getting a wage, not a benefit.

Pages back, the person who has taken up the biggest share of verbiage on this thread said that 'the carer sleeps when the caree sleeps'. Not necessarily. You've obviously never done shifts on nights when you had to stay awake and the people in your care were asleep.

That was in response to someone saying the carer wants to go on a holiday. A carer has a moral obligation, a duty to fulfill.

nannytone_2

margaretclare wrote: »

This has all degenerated into irrelevancies.

The original title of the thread is 'How much to pay a live-in carer?' This, to me, implies an employed person. We've had pages and pages of whether carer's allowance can/can't be paid at the same time as income support. But someone who was being paid to do a residential job as a carer, looking after someone in his/her own home, would be getting a wage, not a benefit.

Pages back, the person who has taken up the biggest share of verbiage on this thread said that 'the carer sleeps when the caree sleeps'. Not necessarily. You've obviously never done shifts on nights when you had to stay awake and the people in your care were asleep.

it all started because sh1981 thought it was totally legitimate to walk into an employment agency as employ a carer for 35 hours a week in exchange for carers allowance!

nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

That was in response to someone saying the carer wants to go on a holiday. A carer has a moral obligation, a duty to fulfill.

so an employed carer ( not a relative or friend or 'odd stranger' that claims CA) has a moral obligation to care 24/7?
isnt that aka as slavery?
( just to add... even a friend/family member/'odd stranger' that claims CA is entitled to time off, and yes,,, even a holiday!

sh1981

nannytone wrote: »

so an employed carer ( not a relative or friend or 'odd stranger' that claims CA) has a moral obligation to care 24/7?
isnt that aka as slavery?
( just to add... even a friend/family member/'odd stranger' that claims CA is entitled to time off, and yes,,, even a holiday!

Yes sure when appropriate arrangements have been made so that the caree can be looked after by someone else.

Slavery is when someone is made to work without consent.

All I was saying was that a carers job comes with a lot of responsibility. You cant just walk out of it without making and ensuring that the caree is looked after once you're not there.

nannytone_2

and you think that people that care and receive carers allowance just walk away and leave the person they care for unattended?
with regards to a paid carer ... they have no responsibility to make sure other care is in place. they are paid for set hours and have no responsibility beyong this.
it is the person who arranges the care that has the responsibility to arrange cover.
paid carers have the same employment rights as any other worker.
paid holidays/sick pay etc.
a big difference to thos that 'work' 35 hours a week minimum for £65. they have no rights, only responsibilities!

sh1981

nannytone wrote: »

and you think that people that care and receive carers allowance just walk away and leave the person they care for unattended?
with regards to a paid carer ... they have no responsibility to make sure other care is in place. they are paid for set hours and have no responsibility beyong this.
it is the person who arranges the care that has the responsibility to arrange cover.
paid carers have the same employment rights as any other worker.
paid holidays/sick pay etc.
a big difference to thos that 'work' 35 hours a week minimum for £65. they have no rights, only responsibilities!

I completely disagree with that. I've already explained how. You're just trying to pick an argument again.

nannytone_2

you disagree wuth whay?
the fact that an employed carer isbt responsible to arrange cover when they have time off persuant to their contract of employment or that a carer who receives CA should be allowed respite from the never ending responsibility?

cattermole

Rosie hope you are able to get a break this weekend and everything goes ok with your Mum and the new Carer you are trying out while you are away.

Hoping for less rain than predicted as well !! lol.

If you need any help with anything always happy to help, if I can, feel free to send a pm. X

margaretclare

Yes, I agree with Cattermole above. We're on our way to Tamworth today but it's very very wet at the moment. Back tomorrow. I wonder if there'll be another 20 pages of nonsense by the time we get back. It's incredible. We are Rose's mum's age-group but are still fortunate enough to be able to make our own choices and get out and about. Meeting some like-minded people in Tamworth and then a celebration meal tonight.