How much to pay a live in carer

sh1981

nannytone wrote: »

you tell yourself you are right if it makes you feel important.
tyhe fact is that YOU said that IS and CA CANNOT be paid at the same time.
EVERY poster that had knowledge of benefits says this is INCORRECT.
yet still you throw your toys out of the pram

CA is paid first because it isnt means tested.
you can have a million in the bank and still receive it.
the criteria states that you cant 'earn' more than £102 a week, but apart from that, there are no money restrictions.
so NO, not all money is classed as being the same as far as benefits are concerned

I am absolutely right when I say again that IS and CA are NOT paid at same time. They are paid seperately, as is DLA, they do not come as a single amount. There is no doubt in what I said.

sh1981

Icequeen99 wrote: »

I can only say this once again. You are correct - the end result is that your IS is lowered till both CA and IS equal full IS rate. No one is disagreeing.

But it isn't because of the overlapping benefit rules - the two sites you link to make that clear.

The overlapping benefit rules only apply to ERB.

The reason the result is as you say is because of the IS rules which treat CA as income and therefore it results ina £1 for £1 deduction.

If you would like I can give you the legislation on the overlapping benefit rule and you will see that IS is not listed in benefits covered by that.

IQ

Regarding overlapping benefits rule, Thank you for correcting me. Much appreciated. End result is the same. You get highest paying benefit, you get that amount, you get what you get for IS, and that's that. AND, that's what matters.

nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

I am absolutely right when I say again that IS and CA are NOT paid at same time. They are paid seperately, as is DLA, they do not come as a single amount. There is no doubt in what I said.

now you are changing what you are saying.
we have been saying that carers allowance is paid and then topped up with IS. and that the amounts are paid seperately.
you disagreed that BOTH benefits can be in payment, not that they go in the bank as 2 seperate amounts

Icequeen99

sh1981 wrote: »

Regarding overlapping benefits rule, Thank you for correcting me. Much appreciated. End result is the same. You get highest paying benefit, you get that amount, you get what you get for IS, and that's that. AND, that's what matters.

Thank you for acknowledging it.

I don't know if you saw my other comment, but the only thing I would add for other people in this situation is that overall you are better off applying for the CA because it leads to an increase in your IS. So in cash terms you get more from IS + CA than just IS without the CA application because of the carer premium.

IQ

sh1981

nannytone wrote: »

good luck. we have been pointing this out for over a day.
quite interested to see if you too become 'wrong' as sh1981 thought you agreed with him

No, contrary to what you and Mojisola think, that apparently I'm a misogynic, ignorant, inexperienced person, I am none of those. icequeen has not been personal or rude to me and I respect her opinion but would politely disagree with her or anyone if I deem necessary.

sh1981

Icequeen99 wrote: »

Thank you for acknowledging it.

I don't know if you saw my other comment, but the only thing I would add for other people in this situation is that overall you are better off applying for the CA because it leads to an increase in your IS. So in cash terms you get more from IS + CA than just IS without the CA application because of the carer premium.

IQ

Fully agreed with Icequeen.

nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

Regarding overlapping benefits rule, Thank you for correcting me. Much appreciated. End result is the same. You get highest paying benefit, you get that amount, you get what you get for IS, and that's that. AND, that's what matters.

you are still applying the overlappingh benefit rule though!
it isnt the highest paying benefit rule with regards to CA and IS.
in fact it is the lower paying benefit that is paid first in the instance of CA and IS, as CA is not means tested in the same way that IS is.
carers allowance is in FULL PAYMENT
IS os a 'top up' ( partial payment)
carers premium is paid as a result of the BA

sh1981

nannytone wrote: »

you are still applying the overlappingh benefit rule though!
it isnt the highest paying benefit rule with regards to CA and IS.
in fact it is the lower paying benefit that is paid first in the instance of CA and IS, as CA is not means tested in the same way that IS is.
carers allowance is in FULL PAYMENT
IS os a 'top up' ( partial payment)
carers premium is paid as a result of the BA

You are merely repeating what I said just to have the last word. However I again say, you will only get money equal to that of IS. No matter hwo you look at it you wont get a penny for CA, you will get the amount equal to IS in form of paying for CA and then paying for IS to make combined CA and IS equal to full IS as I have said earlier many many many many many many times.

nannytone_2

no one has said that the amount paid would be more.
all we have ever said is that BOTH benefits are in payment, to which your response was
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!'
when in fact it is 'RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT!!'

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Mojisola

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People aren't responding to your posts because of what they think of you but because your inaccurate information could lead other readers to think they can't claim benefits that they are entitled to.