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  • We had a neighbour like this ( though not so bad )

    We stuck a rope noose up dangling from one of our branches in plain site....

    Didn't have the problem after that!
  • ill share with an experiences I had with elderly neighbors.


    my first HA property was a old terraced pit house.


    we waited ages for the property, my wife at the time was pregnant with our twins, she didn't have a very good pregnancy with constant bouts of sever pain and sickness.


    We moved in, and the first night, bang bang bang bang from loud bass from the elderly gent next door 11pm -7am, we put it down to he must not know were in here yet as we didn't see him during the moving process.


    6pm the next bang bang bang bang bang shouting bang shouting bang shouting bang laughing bang bang bang, it was that loud, the doors were vibrating on their hindges.


    8pm it stops, 11pm it starts up again with what sounds like a party going on, you can hear graphic details of who he'd wish to have a intimacy with in discussions with his mate's ontop of the banging from the stereo 7PM silence.


    rinse and repeat for a further 3 more nights, im thinking he got to know where in here now, 12 AM we hear him coming down the street with his mates from being to the pub, the burst in and the first thing we hear is stick the stereo on, then the bass starts and conversations on top it.


    next day, I pop round to introduce myself (thinking if he doesn't know were in he will now) hoping that he'll have a little more respect that he know knows for sure he has neighbors that are moved in and ones heavily pregnant. nice enough gent to talk to approachable so I felt confident that if needed later I could knock his door.


    12 AM that day he comes in from pub again, bang bang bang with music. I politely knock his door, I be respectful and polite, explain the OH is in sevre pain tonight with the pregnancy and weve got to be up 6AM to be at the hospital in the morning for a emergency scan at 8AM. he was nice apologetic said our house had been empty for a while and he'd forgot there people in, wished us good luck with the scan and hoped everything was fine and he'd turn it off now.


    it goes silent no music no shouting, and after about an hour me and the wife drop off to sleep, 3AM bang bang bang bang with music again, loud shouting laughter and obviously his mates has turned up as we can hear all of them, I leave them to it, slams pillow over ears and hope its enough to muffle the noise out.


    the loud music continues and goes on for another week, then comes the weekend, so comes a Saturday night, and its louder than ever, to the point that my picture frames on the wall furthest away from that house are bouncing on their hooks, the front uPVC door is making noises I didnt think they could make with vibration. I knock the door its about 12AM, im respectfull and polite and ask can he turn it down or off, he grumbles about another one complaining about his music, but then pipes up and says yeh ill turn it down and slams door on my face.
    he didn't turn it down, 3 am the music is at the same level and I just cannot sleep with this going on, my wifes says look, you've tried asking im going to try and ask him, so she waddles over to next door and knock the door, I can hear them saying !!!!!! its that P***K from next door again, I hear them open the door and my wife says look im not very well I cant sleep with this bass coming from the stereo, can you please turn it down, I hear him tell her he already have when your partner asked me, your getting on my nerves now and slams door and the music is turned off.


    week goes by and no music, then comes the Saturday night fever party at his house again we don't bother going round, we don't bother him this time plus we had allot thing to do that weekend we were hardly in.


    every night after that Saturday the music went on till about 4-5AM.


    On a Monday morning we made a complaint to HA about it, they drafted a letter and sent it to him.


    came the Saturday still the same, I knock the door 4AM and a bit firmer tell him to turn it down was met with verbal abuse about the letter and how our HA cant do nothing about it.


    we start a log on that Saturday night.


    on the Monday I make another complaint, area manager agree's to call to my house to discuss it.


    on the Wednesday she comes and we sit and discuss everything, told to contact the police and keep the log going as when the music starts and stops and how many attend the house etc.


    the Saturday night comes, music starts 11PM I call police, police attend and he refuses to answer the door. police goes away without speaking to him.


    sunday night music start at 10pm my wife goes round and I stand on the door step, he answers flips and goes to throw a punch at her I dart infront and go to give him chinning when he slams his door.
    I call police, police attend ask whats happened bang his door he refuses to answer and turn his music up full volume while is friends goggle eyed looking through the blinds in the living room. police walk away with ring us I he kicks off again complain to HA simpleton advice.


    everything logged in our diary with constable numbers and names.


    calls HA again and get through to the ASB prevention team, describe everything to them even the local area manager attending, the area manager never logged anything their systems about the issues, they go speak to her in her office and she denies all knowledge of even speaking to us or attending the property, but our call was logged she she got caught in a lie we make arrangements to speak to her manager, we attend the meating, and were apologized to and said that the area manager was now not to deal with us at all.


    in that meeting we were told we had to gather evidence, keeping the logs and keep calling police to attend, I said I wasn't happy there my wife doesn't need this stress and that one more violent outburst from him and ill be moving out.


    comes another Saturday night, same thing like clockwork 11pm music on full blast I give it a while I knocks the door, he comes out shouting then threatens to have my head kicked in. calls police, police attends, police bangs on the door, he answers, claiming I threatened him police officer said he heared the music when he entered the street, that's when he got irate at the police telling them go away and that me and my wife are drug takers, half way down the garden path he shouts abuse at me and shuts the door police go back knock his door again when he tell where to go, police tells us you can live with that pack your stuff up im calling your HA on Monday to tel them ive advised you to seek shelter elsewhere and that they should give you another house somewhere else while their dealing with him in other ways such as court eviction.


    month went buy living at my mum dads, my wife had our twins, and we informed HA of the new arrivals they said we had to return back to our property they didn't have enough evidence to give us a priority card for moving us to a new property.


    we moved back in, he watches us move in, he knew about the birth of our twins, that night 11pm like clock work, music full blast twins start screaming, I knock the door and said look for the sake of the kids can you please turn it down, was met with nothing and slammed door in my face, rinse repeat for another 2 weeks, we couldn't take no more called HA told them that im back at my mums, i'll send the log via post and hope that's enough to get things moving.


    6 months later we had a letter from civil court to attend in the case against our neighbor, we attended so did he he tried the im a OAP I couldn't have done all this their lying angle on the judge but he had non of it, due to the log and registered call log and police reports he had a 12 month prohibition notice place upon him this prevented him playing his stereo at a level that could be heard by any member of the public outside his property and HA also were granted a possession notice on the property so if he breached the order he would be evicted.


    I was told I had to return to the property, I told them on the basis of threats of violence and physical harm im refusing to go back.


    I appealed the decision of my HA stating that they are going to evict me from the address because I am not living there, I wrote to their chief exec, explained the situation, and my point of view, the notice of intended eviction was reversed and I was given a priority card to place bid on a house when one came up in the area.


    I placed bids on houses in the area I would be 1st in the list then the last day of bidding, I would come last.


    I bid on my current house came first in the bid line until 1 hour to closing bid and came thirty third, I called HA to see what was going, I got excuse form excuse, then my mum ripped the phone out of my hand, said that if we don't get that house she would see the MP see a solicitor because someone is tampering with the bidding system in on their end, mum was told they don't do things like that that they stick within the rules set by their bigger brother charity company, but she would go and see what has happened and ring us back.


    hour later, we had a phone call, the house is ours, mum asked well how come they were first till 1 hour before bidding, then 33rd, and that's been the same trend since bidding on three different houses prior to this one, the woman on the phone offered no excuse other than it was managements decision to give us this property due to our circumstances.


    we waited 2 months for the previous owner to move out and when they did the house was in disarray and needed allot of work, the stresses of it sent me into hospital.


    ..I didn't relies how long this was so ill leave my last OAP ASB story for another time.
  • Atrixblue – thanks for sharing your story. It sounds truly horrendous, you and your family have been through so much because of one of these old nasties!! I cannot believe he was going to hit your wife too, that is disgusting!! What a really really horrible piece of work he was!! It actually sounds like a danger to himself and others and should be in a secure ward somewhere!!

    I am so pleased you managed to get away from him but I am stunned at just how much you had to go through in order to do so, all the authorities just sounded useless!!! I can only think 2 things that may be the reason for this 1) as we have seen from previous posts, people actually find it unbelievable that an old person can cause so much distress and 2) they didn’t want to stress him out in case he ‘popped off’ during the process and they were worried about repercussions (referring back to point 1). I bet if he was a young lad who liked to get wasted and party every night and throw punches at pregnant women he’d have been the one leaving, not you!

    The bit about going to court and him playing the OAP card, that is what bothers me about these vile people. They know exactly what they are doing when they are causing the problems (they get enjoyment and excitement from it) and then of course know what to do to try and get out of it too. They look the part so it is easy for them to manipulate people into thinking they are a sweet little old person who would never do such nasty things. I know that my neighbour would do this, which is why I just don’t want the situation to go any further.

    I hope you have recovered from your sickness and that you and your family have settled into your place and will be happy from now on.

    A few updates on my side since my last post:

    One of my OH’s friends was over yesterday afternoon for a couple of hours, he parked in ‘the space’! I walked past the window and noticed my neighbour outside – I think he was checking the tax disc, looking in the back of the truck etc, he walked back to his driveway, turned around and walked back into the road behind the truck and half pulled out a notepad from his pocket, he didn’t write anything in it, it was more like he was reading/comparing details already in there. Grrrrrrrrr!!!!

    The day before he was out the front ALL day, he has a very loud voice so when he speaks, it catches your attention. 3 times I heard him while I was working and when I looked up he was talking to people and pointing his horrid crooked finger in the direction of our house, I actually dream about going out there and snapping it off!! hehehe :naughty::D


    We have got some money together now so as soon as I see my fencing neighbour will get the ball rolling on the fence and show that nosey beast!!! I really hope I get to see his face when it goes up and he realises he will no longer be able to spy on us. I may even try to get a picture of it, I'll print it off and give him a copy to keep in his report :whistle::cool:
  • Have tou thought about painting the back (neighbours side) ofyour fence areally garish colour before you have it erected?:rotfl:
  • missprice
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    celticcurl wrote: »
    Have tou thought about painting the back (neighbours side) ofyour fence areally garish colour before you have it erected?:rotfl:

    Swirls of turquoise and barbie pink, with rude words written really small in black.
    If he complains tell him its a Tracey emin original, worth a fortune and all you could get at short notice.
    Also mention that it came with 43 used condoms nailed into it, but you didn't want to offend him. :rotfl:
    63 mortgage payments to go.

    Zero wins 2016 😥
  • Norman_Castle
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    DaveTheMus wrote: »
    If he is 90 he probably fought in WWII......something to think about.
    On who's side?. He may have been a spy. Old habits......
  • lol, I did actually say to my OH we should do something naughty to his side ;) I was considering getting lots of stickers of 'eyes' and putting them all over it so he can get an idea of what its like to be watched constantly hehe :D
  • Norman_Castle
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    Try a few carefully placed "Nosey" signs which can only be read by spying, or a mousetrap placed just inside your garden, disguised as something interesting.:D
  • missprice
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    Try a few carefully placed "Nosey" signs which can only be read by spying, or a mousetrap placed just inside your garden, disguised as something interesting.:D

    Not a bad plan that. What about lollipop sticks with 'oy nosy man get out' or 'hey you stop trampling my garden'
    Stick them near plants so they look like name tags and if he says anything about them you just have to ask how in heck could he read that tiny writing from the boundary.
    63 mortgage payments to go.

    Zero wins 2016 😥
  • i'm loving these ideas hehe :rotfl:
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