Is renewing a passport ok or likely to raise questions?

tinkledom

specialboy wrote: »

Not taking sides here but it does state on the governments own website...


Benefits for carers and people with disabilities

Going abroad temporarily

You can claim the following benefits if you’re going abroad for up to 13 weeks (or 26 weeks if it’s for medical treatment):

• Attendance Allowance
• Disability Living Allowance - care component
• Personal Independence Payment - daily living component

You can carry on claiming Carer’s Allowance if you take up to 4 weeks holiday out of a 26-week period.
Tell the office that deals with your benefit that you’ll be away.


So it seems sensible enough to me to inform them of your intentions to travel abroad.

Thank you for reassuring me that I wasn't simply seeing things. However, you will still get those that don't agree with anything and anybody on here.

tinkledom

Parva wrote: »

Conversely, could you give me a link that says that I am unable to take a 2 week holiday abroad whilst I am in the ESA support group that says I must inform the DWP? No? Utter BS Andy. Reporting your post also with the hope of yet another PPR.

Just re-read what the guidance says about ANY holiday abroad for ANY length of time whilst receiving ESA - Talk to your local Jobcentre Plus before you go.

I can't make it any simpler for you. If you want to tell me that this is not true, then post the guidance that you are relying on.


Even other posters who have checked it out for the purposes of this thread agree with me that what I have quoted is correct.

tinkledom

Morglin wrote: »

The JCP will not want to get involved with anyone taking a normal holiday, of approx 2 weeks.

Why would they, as it doesn't affect anything. Good luck with phoning them though, waiting ages in a call queue for them to be completely uninterested in where you are taking your bucket and spade this year lol

If anyone is going abroad for more than 4 weeks, then, yes, they need to be notified, because of residency rules.

But, as has been said, people do go on holiday, and they need passports for foreign holidays and ID.

Lin

So why does that guidance appear on the government's website if you are not required to notify them?


I'll re-post it again.


Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)

There are 2 types of ESA - income-related or contribution-based.
You can get both of these for 4 weeks if you go abroad.
Talk to your local Jobcentre Plus before you go.

The DWP are talking about holidays that DO NOT EXCEED 4 weeks.


Why are you arguing with me, surely you should be taking it up with the DWP who after all pay the benefit.

tinkledom

QuackQuackOops wrote: »

That has nothing to do with going on a normal holiday.

Disabled people in this country have every right to take a holiday without informing anyone at the DWP.

Actually requiring a disabled person to inform the DWP of a normal holiday of less than 4 weeks would be discriminatory.

Oh here we go the discriminatory card is being played now.


The guidance I quoted is very clear - you either abide by it or don't - it's your choice. If you receive disability benefits - you are told to discuss your holiday arrangements with the DWP no matter if it is for one week or 1 month BEFORE you go.

cattermole

He is correct though it is a discriminatory regulation.

More and more of them are coming to light and many were written a long time ago and are outdated.

If you went on holiday for a week and didn't inform them and they some how or another found out and stopped your benefit (which would be highly unlikely) you would have good grounds to say they had Discriminated.

Going back to the OP some form of photo id, seems to be needed more and more these days! Which is why we need a National ID system like all the other countries in Europe has. As long as they don't charge us a fortune for the ID!

tinkledom

cattermole wrote: »

He is correct though it is a discriminatory regulation.

More and more of them are coming to light and many were written a long time ago and are outdated.

If you went on holiday for a week and didn't inform them and they some how or another found out and stopped your benefit (which would be highly unlikely) you would have good grounds to say they had Discriminated.

Going back to the OP some form of photo id, seems to be needed more and more these days! Which is why we need a National ID system like all the other countries in Europe has. As long as they don't charge us a fortune for the ID!

It MAY be discriminatory - that is for the courts to decide, not you or me.
If you think there are some laws that do not fit the times that we are now living in, you should be taking it up with your MP. Personally I can't see it being as you are asking the government to pay you money, with that comes conditions, right or wrong. If you don't agree with the conditions, then don't claim the money.


Now I agree with that. Everyone should be forced to carry with them at all times a government issued ID card, that carries details on a chip of immigration status, personal details, health details and more importantly any previous involvement with the police whether prosecuted or not.
It should be made compulsory with a heavy penalty imposed.

cattermole

Bizarre just posted a link for everyone re MP's before I read this.

Actually MP's are not much use when it comes to discriminatory legislation. If someone had their benefit stopped, they could appeal which would then give them the forum to point out the relevant law to the judge, who would make the decision based on existing case law.

tinkledom

cattermole wrote: »

Bizarre just posted a link for everyone re MP's before I read this.

Actually MP's are not much use when it comes to discriminatory legislation. If someone had their benefit stopped, they could appeal which would then give them the forum to point out the relevant law to the judge, who would make the decision based on existing case law.

As I said, let the courts decide.

Morglin

Cattermole:


Not sure about a National ID card, simply because we could never trust governments not to increase the remit of it.

But, a passport is simple, in that it's got a dual purpose (holidays and ID).

As a side issue, have just spoken to an old colleague at the JCP, and she was slightly bemused at the concept of numerous claimants phoning to tell her where and when they are going on their 2 week summer holidays this year. :eek:

Lin

cattermole

Indeed but people need to be aware that some law that the DWP may be trying to force upon them is unlawful.