jsa abroad

sniggings

StormyWeather wrote: »

Tomtom posted the link earlier.



To get Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) you must:

• be 18 or over but below State Pension age - there are some exceptions if you’re 16 or 17
• not be in full-time education
• be in England, Scotland or Wales
• be able and available for work
• be actively seeking work
• work on average less than 16 hours a week
• go to a JSA interview

If you're out of the country, you aren't in England, Scotland or Wales and you aren't available.

I replied to that post, it is referring to starting a claim, it does not say you can not take a holiday, as the other link clearly says you "may" not be entilted to claim IF aboard, it does not say you CAN'T, both links can't be right can they, one is saying you have to be in the UK the other is saying you may be able to claim if not in the UK.

StormyWeather_2

sniggings wrote: »

I replied to that post, it is referring to starting a claim, it does not say you can not take a holiday, as the other link clearly says you "may" not be entilted to claim IF aboard, it does not say you CAN'T, both links can't be right can they, one is saying you have to be in the UK the other is saying you may be able to claim if not in the UK.

Those rules apply throughout the duration of the claim.

I think people should be allowed to take one holiday a year but the rules say no.

The OP needs to be honest about the situation. Worst case scenario is they lose 1 week of JSA and gets to go on holiday.

baza52

Its saying you MAY be able to claim if you meet the criteria.
Going on a Holiday would not be classed as looking for work so in that case the OP WOULD NOT be entitled.


Search the forum and you will find countless threads where people have had to sign off and reclaim when back in the country.


I doubt you will find any where the OP went on holiday and still got paid.

Voyager2002

mich85 wrote: »

Thank you. How long would a rapid reclaim take as I don't want to go weeks without money. Especially as I have children. Have you personally done this before? Do you know if I'm still able to get tax creds and child benefit? I would be going away the day I sign on so would I still need to do that? Xx

In my experience a 'rapid reclaim' is very quick, so all you would lose would be the JSA for the actual days when you were out of the country.

In your situation I would be very tempted just to sign on as usual and not tell them anything. Do be aware that doing so would be classed as fraud, so this is not something I would even consider if I thought that children and neighbours might chat about the foreign holiday.

NYM

Participant has a holiday planned (within GB)
14. The process for participants taking holidays differs depending on their claimant group:

• All JSA claimant groups are entitled to a total of two weeks holiday within a 12 month period
• All ESA claimant groups are not limited to the amount of time they are allowed to spend away from home within Great Britain; also they are not expected to notify yourselves or the Benefit Centre if they go on holiday
• IS and Incapacity Benefit (IB) claimants must notify Jobcentre Plus of the period they will be away and an address where they can be contacted

Please Note: For holiday purposes the term ‘Great Britain’ includes:
England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Shetland, Hebrides,
Orkney, Lundy, Isles of Scilly, Isle of Wight, Isle of Man and the
territorial waters adjacent to Great Britain, ‘Great Britain’ does not
include The Channel Islands for holiday purposes.

Participant is going abroad temporarily (including holidays abroad)

15. All JSA (IB) claimants going abroad will have their claim for JSA closed for the period they are away.

16. JSA (Contributory [C]) claimants holidaying abroad will also have their claims closed.

17. If a JSA (C) claimant moves abroad permanently, they may have the right to claim the remainder of their benefit in the country they move to. Jobcentre Plus will inform you of this change.

18. ESA claimants can go abroad for a period of up to 4 weeks and do not have to notify Jobcentre Plus that they are doing so.

19. IS and IB claimants can go abroad for a period of up to 4 weeks, but must notify Jobcentre Plus that they are doing so.

20. In some exceptional cases ESA can be paid to a participant whilst they are abroad for a period of up to 52 weeks. The participant has to request permission from DWP if they wish to do this.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/269165/wp-pg-chapter-5.pdf


Does any of that help ?

Poppie68

NYM wrote: »

Participant has a holiday planned (within GB)
14. The process for participants taking holidays differs depending on their claimant group:

• All JSA claimant groups are entitled to a total of two weeks holiday within a 12 month period
• All ESA claimant groups are not limited to the amount of time they are allowed to spend away from home within Great Britain; also they are not expected to notify yourselves or the Benefit Centre if they go on holiday
• IS and Incapacity Benefit (IB) claimants must notify Jobcentre Plus of the period they will be away and an address where they can be contacted

Please Note: For holiday purposes the term ‘Great Britain’ includes:
England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Shetland, Hebrides,
Orkney, Lundy, Isles of Scilly, Isle of Wight, Isle of Man and the
territorial waters adjacent to Great Britain, ‘Great Britain’ does not
include The Channel Islands for holiday purposes.

Participant is going abroad temporarily (including holidays abroad)

15. All JSA (IB) claimants going abroad will have their claim for JSA closed for the period they are away.

16. JSA (Contributory [C]) claimants holidaying abroad will also have their claims closed.

17. If a JSA (C) claimant moves abroad permanently, they may have the right to claim the remainder of their benefit in the country they move to. Jobcentre Plus will inform you of this change.

18. ESA claimants can go abroad for a period of up to 4 weeks and do not have to notify Jobcentre Plus that they are doing so.

19. IS and IB claimants can go abroad for a period of up to 4 weeks, but must notify Jobcentre Plus that they are doing so.

20. In some exceptional cases ESA can be paid to a participant whilst they are abroad for a period of up to 52 weeks. The participant has to request permission from DWP if they wish to do this.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/269165/wp-pg-chapter-5.pdf


Does any of that help ?

PHEW...Well done NYM...now Sniggings what do you say to that?

sniggings

Poppie68 wrote: »

PHEW...Well done NYM...now Sniggings what do you say to that?

Just as I thought :rotfl:

Adereterial

Ok, Sniggings - you want something more explicit about whether one can or cannot have an open claim to JSA whilst abroad?

https://www.gov.uk/claiming-benefits-move-travel-abroad/jobseekers-allowance

The very first line states:


You can’t get income-based JSA abroad.

There are exceptions for those on conts based JSA immediately afterwards - none of those list 'holiday' as a valid exemption.

The OP MAY be able to go on holiday within the UK though, and still be paid, assuming certain conditions are met.

BillJones

tomtom256 wrote: »

Sorry but are you thick, do not understand the link or just trying to be an asshat?

The poster to whom you are responding is one of those who seems to put more effort into finding loopholes in the system than in to forging their own way, off benefits.

There are all too many like that.

red_devil

Another stupid rule that needs changing. Ok to go to brighton but not to spain.