jsa abroad

NYM

sniggings wrote: »

you are not allowed a UK holiday either, that's the point.

The kids not having any food for a couple of weeks whilst the parent reclaims will probably count as being penalised i would have thought, or not being allowed to go on holiday with their parent/s.

I'll repost this for those that believe what you've written is factual.

Participant has a holiday planned (within GB)
14. The process for participants taking holidays differs depending on their claimant group:

• All JSA claimant groups are entitled to a total of two weeks holiday within a 12 month period
• All ESA claimant groups are not limited to the amount of time they are allowed to spend away from home within Great Britain; also they are not expected to notify yourselves or the Benefit Centre if they go on holiday
• IS and Incapacity Benefit (IB) claimants must notify Jobcentre Plus of the period they will be away and an address where they can be contacted

Please Note: For holiday purposes the term ‘Great Britain’ includes:
England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Shetland, Hebrides,
Orkney, Lundy, Isles of Scilly, Isle of Wight, Isle of Man and the
territorial waters adjacent to Great Britain, ‘Great Britain’ does not
include The Channel Islands for holiday purposes.


Glad to be of help

sniggings

NYM wrote: »

I'll repost this for those that believe what you've written is factual.

Participant has a holiday planned (within GB)
14. The process for participants taking holidays differs depending on their claimant group:

• All JSA claimant groups are entitled to a total of two weeks holiday within a 12 month period
• All ESA claimant groups are not limited to the amount of time they are allowed to spend away from home within Great Britain; also they are not expected to notify yourselves or the Benefit Centre if they go on holiday
• IS and Incapacity Benefit (IB) claimants must notify Jobcentre Plus of the period they will be away and an address where they can be contacted

Please Note: For holiday purposes the term ‘Great Britain’ includes:
England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Shetland, Hebrides,
Orkney, Lundy, Isles of Scilly, Isle of Wight, Isle of Man and the
territorial waters adjacent to Great Britain, ‘Great Britain’ does not
include The Channel Islands for holiday purposes.


Glad to be of help

is their benefits stop though, that is the point I was making.

NYM

sniggings wrote: »

is their benefits stop though, that is the point I was making.

That's not the point you were making...

sniggings wrote: »

you are not allowed a UK holiday either, that's the point.

sniggings wrote: »

The kids not having any food for a couple of weeks whilst the parent reclaims will probably count as being penalised i would have thought, or not being allowed to go on holiday with their parent/s.

If the children don't have any food for a couple of weeks because the parents chose to take 2 weeks holiday instead....who's fault is that ?

BillJones

sniggings wrote: »

sorry never bothered reading this, as you are clearly wanting an argument, I won't reply again to you as I don't want to keep you up as you need to get up for work tomorrow I expect.

Or, to put it another way, not even you can defend the rot that you've been posting.

I look forward to more entitled whining from you tomorrow.

BillJones

NYM wrote: »

That's not the point you were making...

If the children don't have any food for a couple of weeks because the parents chose to take 2 weeks holiday instead....who's fault is that ?

Always the government. In Sniggings' world the individual has no responsibilities, only rights, and society are expected to simply pick up the bill while the unemployed sun themselves on the beach in Spain.

StormyWeather_2

I agree, wouldn't it be less admin for DWP if they could just change a claimants status to 'holiday' and stop 1 or 2 weeks JSA?

But the other point of view, if my parents offered to pay for a holiday for my family, and I mentioned that if we take that holiday it could potentially put us in a difficult situation financially for a week or two afterwards, they would lend me the equivalent of JSA.

Voyager2002

sniggings wrote: »

the kids should not be penalised, surely allowing a parents that is taking her kids on holiday is not asking too much, and if you argee it is, then at least allow them to stop claiming for a week and their claim is just deducted one weeks benefit, rather than costing the tax payer more by having her reclaim and waiting weeks for her benefit to restart.

The truth is they make it as hard for people on benefits as they can, the premise is all those on benefits as lazy scum, same if you go in hospital for more than 2 weeks, I was "lucky" as I was in for one day short of the time allowed, so my claim carried on, one day more and my claim would have been canceled, and I would have had to either claim ESA or JSA again, getting out of hospital, the last thing you need to wrong about is having the bus fare home and having to claim anew or the same benefit again, so another way to beat the poor down.

Since a claimant is allowed to go away for two weeks holiday each year, I agree that it is idiotic that this holiday must be taken within the UK.

However, the process of declaring holiday abroad and then re-opening a claim on return is quick and easy: in this case it is not true that they make things as difficult as possible for claimants.

StormyWeather_2

I guess the assumption is that it's easier to return home from within the UK than it is from abroad.

Is it easy to change a return flight?

If you're in the UK and bought a train ticket in advance, for specific trains to get the best deal, it would be very expensive to change trains to return early.

sniggings

NYM wrote: »

That's not the point you were making...





If the children don't have any food for a couple of weeks because the parents chose to take 2 weeks holiday instead....who's fault is that ?

Are you for real, of course it was the point I was making...by your argument they could have a holiday for a year, it just means they don't get any benefits, so all is good :rotfl:

So I guess the answer to my question that you have swerded, is they can have 2 weeks holiday but no benefits, so the child would be penalised.

We got there in the end.

sniggings

Voyager2002 wrote: »

Since a claimant is allowed to go away for two weeks holiday each year, I agree that it is idiotic that this holiday must be taken within the UK.

However, the process of declaring holiday abroad and then re-opening a claim on return is quick and easy: in this case it is not true that they make things as difficult as possible for claimants.

sorry but it's not quick and easy, it can be, but it can also take a couple/few weeks.

It would be very easy to put a claim on hold for a week but they choose to close it down and have it reopenned and you have to hope it's dealt with fast, as many of us know, these things can drag on for weeks.

I just hope the 3/7 waiting days don't apply again, would surprise me if they did.