Universities and the myths

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Blacksheep1979 wrote: »

I think we may have stumbled upon the route of alot of your problems here mate - your parents. Who wouldn't have problems if their parents monitored their mail, telephone calls and where they were every minute of the day at 21? Your parents are nutters, you need to get your own space and stop caring about what they or their screwed up friends think.

No this has come out before and he's been given exactly the same advice that he's getting now. He ignored it then and I guess he'll ignore it again.

Phil, you have to start living your own life. I know it's difficult but if your parents don't like it then tough. You're gonna have to think for yourself or else you will never have a life of your own. Your parents will get over it and all will be fine when you show how you're making a life for yourself.
Get a job, any job, and move out. I'm sure that will make a huge improvement to your life and be a big help in your future career. You are gonna have to do it one day and the sooner you do, the sooner you'll be moving up the career ladder as you so desperately desire. It will take time but with effort you can make your parents proud of you.

studentphil

rubuhoeikanaika wrote: »

But what's the alternative? A high-paid job is not going to magically appear, and you don't seem to be having much luck with your jobsearch.

It doesn't seem to be to be a case of
low-paid job now, or high-paid one next month

To me it seems more like,
low-paid job now, or low-paid one next month

What do you hope to gain by waiting?

rubuhoe

I might get the council job or the civil service job or any of the other jobs I have applied for in a few weeks time. I can but live in hope.

Blacksheep1979

studentphil wrote: »

Working at MacD wont make me feel good, it will make me feel dirty and smelly and just awful. So whilst I accept I need a job to try harder to get some more temp work as that might make me feel better.

Initially it may make you feel bad but you need a routine to help you snap out of your downward spiral. And nobody enjoys every aspect of their job. But you will end up liking some parts, you will meet new people and as long as you aren't a complete miserable !!!!! you will make new friends too.

Besides that stop ignoring my other points and go talk to your parents.

Jennie_2

studentphil wrote: »

Do you think your parents would be happy to say with pride to everyone that you as their son or daughter spent years studying and is working in fast food rather than a top banker? Or are my parents really that odd?

No disrespect to your parents, but did they have you later in their lives? Are you by any chance a longed for only child?

Either of these two elements would be a major contributor, I feel, to your state of mind and perception of what constitutes "successful".

I have had my children in my late thirties and know that I cannot force my aspirations on them. I want them to be happy and successful individuals but I do not measure this by whether they go to uni or not.

At the end of the day I will guide them as best I can but ultimately they will make their choices. I will have failed as parent, if they don't come by or call me to tell me all is well, or if they feel they cannot come to me to tell me they are in trouble, or having problems dealing with things.

studentphil

BigBouncyBall wrote: »

I don't believe any doctor in the world could

a) diagnose such a thing
b) be so insensitive as to say such a thing to a parent

sorry you've lost me again, making up things like that does nothing for you phil

When I was little medicine was giving the worst case of never sit up, talk, walk all that.

studentphil

My parents lost a few babies before me and they were older when I was born and I am their only child.

Blacksheep1979

studentphil wrote: »

I might get the council job or the civil service job or any of the other jobs I have applied for in a few weeks time. I can but live in hope.

Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow eh phil? Get your head out of the sand. The bonus of a McJob is that you can quit whenever so it won't hold you back from any job you really want. But do you honestly think if you sit round wasting your time applying for jobs and not getting them you'll feel any better or the big blank on your employment history will start to look any better?

TBH unless you have amazing interpersonal skills, have some form of community work, been on teams, been involved in the union or have a great accademic record you aren't going to get a job without some work history.

How are you going to deal with questions such as 'apart from in your degree name a time when you've worked as part of a team/led a team?', 'What part did you play in that team?' and so on - they often specifically ask for an outside of uni example or a variety of examples.

BigBouncyBall

stop it now. turn the computer off and go and read a book

tr3mor

What jobs have you had before?

Seriously, temping office jobs are really easy to come by. Get yourself to a few agencies and they'll find you something. It'll be pretty dull with !!!!!! pay but at least it'll look better on your CV.

I've had some fairly crap jobs in my life - pot washer in a chinese kitchen, warehouse monkey in primark, barman at a caravan park, etc. I've also had some jobs that have given me office experience and technical experience. And some fun jobs like being a steward at Wembley Arena or being a textslut. It all adds up to a good CV and money in my pocket.

mrcow

So Phil, this time last year you were belittling all the call centre jobs in your area.

How long before you lower yourself enough to apply to them for jobs?

It's office work, there's no uniform and no one's going to ask you to flip any burgers.......