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Family cut themselves out of my son's life

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  • meritaten
    meritaten Posts: 24,158 Forumite
    thinking about you and wiglet - and hoping you are enjoying the 'lead up' to the big day! I always thoroughly enjoyed it when my kids were littlies!
  • Corelli
    Corelli Posts: 664 Forumite
    Good to hear from you again, Wiggy. I do hope you and Wiglet have a lovely xmas. Developing new family traditions will be fun for you both. Not many years now till he starts looking back on the happy days he had when small and how you 'always do' such and such.


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  • wiggywoo9 wrote: »
    Hi I'm ok, must say those posts theorising on situations did not help, that's not going to happen and I don't need to hear it. This isn't a film, it's real life.

    Police are asking about texts and the stuff they dropped last time, so going to reply. Women's aid simply said call us. Haven't got Dr letter yet as needing to sell some items for that money and someone came to look at highchair but decided he didn't want it. Idiot! I'm going to contact the law people now and explain dr situation and why I haven't contacted them since they asked for letter.

    Otherwise, its been ok, finding money is tighter closer it gets to Christmas even though all gifts are bought. Just seems to need an endless pot! Thank you for your kind wishes.



    I'm glad it's never going to happen to you.

    Unfortunately, not everybody has had the same experience and know exactly what can happen when somebody from a controlling family asks to just see a child for a little while. And then had to go through months of not seeing them whilst waiting for court dates, welfare officers/CAFCASS reports and suchlike. Because the police were taken in by a very respectable person who DID NOT have Parental Responsibility and their acquiescent family members. And then, because it took so long, the court decided it was best to leave things as they are because the child was settled at the place they never should have been taken to.


    Anybody who has experienced that would want to warn about the possibility because nobody ever expects that to happen outside the TV screen - until it happens to them. And then nobody believes them. Because it's only the sort of thing that happens in the movies.


    Anyhow, I'm out of the thread.


    Good luck and Happy Christmas.
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  • Yorkie1
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    HPoirot wrote: »
    Stalking was added, tort of harassment was already there.


    Sorry, but you're incorrect then with that reference.

    The POFA creates two new criminal offences of stalking. It adds sections 2A and 4A into the PHA 1997 - the offences of stalking without fear of violence (s2A) and of stalking either causing fear of violence (s4A(1)(b)(i)) or serious alarm or distress (s.4A(1)(b)(ii). Even the heading in the POFA, s.111, which inserts the offences into the PHA 97, says "offences in relation to stalking".

    As I previously wrote, these are all criminal offences for which police action is almost always required. A "tort" of harassment was not created by POFA.

    That all being said, there is a possibility of a civil remedy under s.3 PHA which I had temporarily overlooked.
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/section/3
  • HPoirot
    HPoirot Posts: 1,022 Forumite
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    edited 12 December 2013 at 7:20AM
    Not sure who you are replying to.
    Yorkie1 wrote: »
    A "tort" of harassment was not created by POFA.

    is in essence what I said above.
  • I'm glad it's never going to happen to you.

    Unfortunately, not everybody has had the same experience and know exactly what can happen when somebody from a controlling family asks to just see a child for a little while. And then had to go through months of not seeing them whilst waiting for court dates, welfare officers/CAFCASS reports and suchlike. Because the police were taken in by a very respectable person who DID NOT have Parental Responsibility and their acquiescent family members. And then, because it took so long, the court decided it was best to leave things as they are because the child was settled at the place they never should have been taken to.


    Anybody who has experienced that would want to warn about the possibility because nobody ever expects that to happen outside the TV screen - until it happens to them. And then nobody believes them. Because it's only the sort of thing that happens in the movies.


    Anyhow, I'm out of the thread.

    That's a relief! I'm getting a bit tired of all your catastrophising,

    This thread is all about Wiggy, not you. If you want to maunder on about every unfortunate thing that's ever happened to you or people you know, start your own thread
  • Well said BitterAndTwisted.

    Whats the point of scaremongering where there is no need?!
  • KxMx
    KxMx Posts: 11,170 Forumite
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    I don't see someone relating an experience dismissed by others as not going to happen as scaremongering myself.
  • paulineb_2
    paulineb_2 Posts: 6,489 Forumite
    Well said BitterAndTwisted.

    Whats the point of scaremongering where there is no need?!

    I think telling someone that their child is going to be abducted really isn't the best way to give advice to someone who is clearly already stressed.
  • Okay everyone lets draw a line under that subject and remember its just under two weeks to Christmas!!! Lets get positive! :j:j

    Wiggy do you realise this is your first Xmas with wiglet as an independent woman! You are on the path towards a new more positive life for you and your son :T:T:T I am suppressing the urge to burst into a rendition of Destiny's Child 'independent woman'!, :)

    So what's your plans for the big day? Are you attempting a turkey dinner or starting whole new traditions? What are you looking forward to doing? Is wiglet getting excited? Just a suggestion but have you thought about going to a Christmas Eve children's carol service at your local church? You and little man can sing your hearts out to little donkey or away in a manager and he could even borrow you tea towel and dress up as a shepherd. We go every year and its wonderful, can't wait to take my own little man next year! All the kids love the dressing up bit and it gets them excited for the big day.
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