Family cut themselves out of my son's life

SimonSays

wiggywoo9 wrote: »

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Sadly not. They will assign a new number.

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unicorn1984

A small part of me was really hoping that your sister would stop aiding your mother in all this, but I'm afraid now I agree with everyone saying she is just being your mothers mouthpiece. She also needs to be asked to leave you alone, or she will continue to contact you on your Mothers behest.

That text she sent you was a blatant attempt at emotional blackmail (poor Wiglet will miss out, YOU are depriving him of toys, and contact with his loving Nanny.... what have we done to deserve this?) again, nothing in that text to ask how you are, just more woe-is-me and foot stamping because she is not getting her own way. "me, my, mine"... no reference to anyone else's feelings, apart from telling you that YOU are making HER sad! Waaaah waaaah waaaah.

I notice also the reference to the incident with the oar. She has worded it very cleverly hasn't she? Making a point of showing how you hurt HER, but no mention of the events that led to that, so of course, any outsider (police, solicitor) will just read "oh that poor woman was trying to protect her own Grandson and the vicious daughter attacked her with an oar!" She knows exactly what she is doing, with no regard for anyone's feelings but her own. Her love (or is that control??) for Wiglet is so misplaced it frightening! Your sister, I'm afraid, is no better. For her to text you and say she doesn't know why you are doing all this?!!? But then again, at first glance, its a text WE cant believe she would send, knowing the background, but to that outsider, again, its "yes why IS she stopping them seeing the child?" To treat another human being like this is horrific, but to do it to your own flesh and blood is beyond belief!

I feel for your Nan in all this. A few people have said she is also in part to blame, I don't think so at all. She is effectively reliant on your mum to help her do day-to-day tasks, so she is in no position to rock the boat. She cannot leave the house without the help of your mum, and they live under her roof. It would be lovely if you could get a letter or something to her, to show you are thinking of her. If it was found by your mum/sister, so what? They would maybe then realise that you are not just cutting your whole family off, that you care for the people who treat you with respect.

Your sister should want to see you, with or without Wiglet. She could easily meet you somewhere, when your mum is at work and see how you are doing. But instead she is acting on behalf of your mum, using Wiglet as an emotional weapon. He is doing wonderfully without them, does he ever ask to see Nanny or Aunty? He is not being deprived of anything, you are doing a good thing, keeping them out of his life (all of their own doing) and not exposing him to their twisted, warped ideals of how a family should be.

Get to the solicitors, get a new letter sent out to your mum, explaining that the blatant disregard for the last letter is unacceptable. You do not wish to have contact of any form with her, and that you now wish to have your sister included in this. You want the key to your home returned, and you do not wish for letters, gifts, cards of any kind be sent to your home at Xmas. The threats made to take Wiglet from you in the past mean that them having a key is a serious worry for you.

THEY were the ones at the beginning who said they would cut all ties with you if they couldn't take Wiglet abroad, now the tables have turned, YOU are the one in control. Your mother cannot abide it. Once that letter hits her doormat, she will freak. But this time she will have to adhere to it. This is on your terms, not hers.

YOU are in control. They have treated you appallingly, and all you are guilty of is not wanting their toxicity to reach your son.

Speak to the police about the key, get the solicitor to mention it in the letter. They need to know how worried you are about them being in possession of it.

Stay strong! You are standing on your own 2 feet, and you are doing it without the need to lie, cheat, manipulate, threaten or trick anyone.

Keep it up!!! xx

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

I think there is a plan afoot to abduct Wiglet NOW.


Santa was the first attempt, the sister is the second attempt.

I expect there to be another one very soon, which will be presented along the lines of 'Wiggy has gone mental again, we've been scared for Wiglet, when we finally saw them, we could see how ill she was, so we have taken Wiglet for his own protection (what with Wiggy being this violent, oar wielding nutter) and will be applying for a Residence Order in the New Year (the Christmas break that courts and solicitors have meaning that Wiggy can't seek legal assistance until mid January and will hopefully go to pieces, thus proving our claims of her being a danger to 'Our Wiglet').


I'd like to say I've thought of this due to watching too many soap operas. But I don't watch any of them - real life holds far more shocks if you look beneath the surface of what relatives do to one another, especially when FAAAAAAAAAAAAAMILY is concerned.

duchy

I do think she's getting desperate.....she'll probably claim Nan is sick next. Sorry Wiggy but the sooner you get things sorted legally the better.

Ballabriggs

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

I think there is a plan afoot to abduct Wiglet NOW.


Santa was the first attempt, the sister is the second attempt.

I expect there to be another one very soon, which will be presented along the lines of 'Wiggy has gone mental again, we've been scared for Wiglet, when we finally saw them, we could see how ill she was, so we have taken Wiglet for his own protection (what with Wiggy being this violent, oar wielding nutter) and will be applying for a Residence Order in the New Year (the Christmas break that courts and solicitors have meaning that Wiggy can't seek legal assistance until mid January and will hopefully go to pieces, thus proving our claims of her being a danger to 'Our Wiglet').


I'd like to say I've thought of this due to watching too many soap operas. But I don't watch any of them - real life holds far more shocks if you look beneath the surface of what relatives do to one another, especially when FAAAAAAAAAAAAAMILY is concerned.

I think you are right to a certain extent JoJo with regard to their motives, but given all the support wiggy has behind her (from the health visitor, GP and the previous social services thumbs up report, plus her previous reports to the police) all wiggy would have to do is pick up the phone and dial 999, and the police would return wiglet to his mum. Only the social services and the police can remove the child in an emergency. Wiggy's family has no legal foot to stand on given that they do not have parental responsibility for the child and have no automatic right to it by way of being related to wiggy.

Building up more and more official evidence on wiggy's side regarding the harassment from her family means that they would be very very stupid to try this tactic as they could easily be charged with kidnapping and face criminal charges given they have no parental rights. They would effectively prove wiggy's fears right!!

I think wiggy has got it sorted and is very level headed in how she is protecting her and wiglet.

paulineb_2

I think however the OP had recently cause to send a legal letter and involve the police and get a letter sent re non harassing her might make the mothers case less credible, after all, causing a scene and being told to stay away by the police doesnt exactly make you look very good does it?

I hope they dont try it, they could end up in very deep trouble indeed. Having had PND in the past doesnt make someone unfit to look after kids, a friend of mine had terrible PND, no question of the child not being looked after properly

Plus, the OPs medial records would support the fact that she is currently in good health

MothballsWallet

Yorkie1 wrote: »

MBW's suggested letter is good but I'd be clear that it included contact via sister.

I should also point out that 'taken to court' implies prosecution, and that's not something they can say "will" happen. That's up to the police and then the CPS.

Actually, the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (aka POFA - the same law mentioned a lot on our Parking board) amended the Protection from Harassment Act to add a tort of harassment - this means that wiggy and her solicitor could bring a civil action against her mother and sister if they disobey.

Also, just thought of something: how about adding a "removal of implied right of access"-type line in there as well, thus creating a trespass if wiggy's mum and/or sister turn up uninvited? This would be covered under the tort of trespass, which is civil law again.

duchy

You're assuming a woman who threatens to abduct a child and who ignores letters warning her to stop harassment is in any way reasonable or firing on all cylinders.

paulineb_2

duchy wrote: »

You're assuming a woman who threatens to abduct a child and who ignores letters warning her to stop harassment is in any way reasonable or firing on all cylinders.

Not at all, but I wouldnt make the assumption that that theres going to be an attempt to abduct the child either

I do agree that the mum and sis do need to be told legally and as soon as possible to stay away from the OP and her son

duchy

paulineb wrote: »

Not at all, but I wouldnt make the assumption that that theres going to be an attempt to abduct the child either

I do agree that the mum and sis do need to be told legally and as soon as possible to stay away from the OP and her son

You seriously don't think that they wouldn't abduct the child despite the threats to ?

Not a risk I'd take with MY child but we're all entitled to our own opinions.