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No toys or blankets in allowed in cot as they can cause cot deaths?

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  • Aimless
    Aimless Posts: 924 Forumite
    People may think I'm over fussy, but babies have died because they have been given excessive salt.
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    Aimless wrote: »
    People may think I'm over fussy, but babies have died because they have been given excessive salt.

    And so many more haven't.
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    Aimless wrote: »
    People may think I'm over fussy, but babies have died because they have been given excessive salt.

    Huge amounts of salt. A bit here and there is absolutely fine.
    Trying to be a man is a waste of a woman
  • Aimless
    Aimless Posts: 924 Forumite
    Well let's play Russian Roulette and hope we're the lucky ones?

    Too much salt is bad for everybody, not just children. I wouldn't eat some of the things they would happily feed him.
  • mcja
    mcja Posts: 4,077 Forumite
    Thanks to the internet there is so many more parents which are fully informed with lovely information and a lot of horror stories. Even when I had mine (youngest is 7) the internet just wasn't as everywhere as it is now.

    My SIL is doing an amazing job bringing up my nephew, but they are so over informed that it took them a good few months to be able to take any advice.
    “Listen earnestly to anything your children want to tell you, no matter what. If you don't listen eagerly to the little stuff when they are little, they won't tell you the big stuff when they are big, because to them all of it has always been big stuff.”
  • Aimless
    Aimless Posts: 924 Forumite
    To be honest, it's not a case of whether you agree with my rules, but that those are my rules. If I say no feeding him off your plate, or out of your glass for example, then that's the rule. If you break it, you don't get asked to babysit for five minutes even. There's offering helpful advice, and then there's wilfully ignoring what you're asked to do because your way is supposedly best.
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    Aimless wrote: »
    To be honest, it's not a case of whether you agree with my rules, but that those are my rules. If I say no feeding him off your plate, or out of your glass for example, then that's the rule. If you break it, you don't get asked to babysit for five minutes even. There's offering helpful advice, and then there's wilfully ignoring what you're asked to do because your way is supposedly best.

    Gosh, you sound awfully dogmatic. If someone loves your child and is good enough to look after them for a short while why is it necessary for them to follow such stringent rules? If you follow the salt guidelines the rest of the time one bag of crisps or a biscuit will have no overall effect whatsoever. Lighten up.
  • Aimless
    Aimless Posts: 924 Forumite
    Why should I have to accept that they won't follow my rules? It's not like I'm asking them to babysit, is it compulsory to leave your baby with people you're not happy with?
  • Nicki
    Nicki Posts: 8,166 Forumite
    Huge amounts of salt. A bit here and there is absolutely fine.

    But how does the grandparent know how much other salt the child has had that day/week to judge whether their packet of salt and vinegar crisps will be too much?

    Excess salt for a baby isn't as much as you might think. The NHS says the maximum safe level of salt for a child under 3 is 2g (0.8g of sodium), which is around a third of a teaspoon. One small pack of salt and vinegar crisps contains more than half of that. If the child had also (for example) had the smallest size tin of Heinz baked beans with pork sausages as well, they would be well over the maximum salt level for the day.

    As you can see from this news report (one of many) you don't need huge amounts of salt to kill a baby or make a small child very ill. The child in that report had a safe level of salt for an adult, but way too much for a child (just over a teaspoon's worth of salt contained in processed food spread over a whole day's worth of food)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/404667.stm
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    Aimless wrote: »
    Why should I have to accept that they won't follow my rules? It's not like I'm asking them to babysit, is it compulsory to leave your baby with people you're not happy with?

    My DIL&SIL brought their 8 week old baby round to a relative that we were visiting. They were about 2 weeks into "Gina Fording" him (poor dab). It was naptime, so they took him upstairs, swaddled him, put him in a Moses basket and then left to go and view a house with the instructions "ignore him if he cries - it's naptime".

    He was crying as they left. 5 minutes later he was screaming.

    We were torn - do we follow the rules and leave him scream? My husband flew up the stairs and brought him down to calm him. He rocked him till he was calm again. BIL&SIL came back and went mad that he hadn't been left, 8 WEEKS OLD, to scream for the 2 hours that he should have been napping.

    That to me is cruelty. Not the odd bit of food from Granny's plate or the odd lightly salted chip.
    Trying to be a man is a waste of a woman
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