how to get a pay rise

AP007

Southend1 wrote: »

I challenge you to produce a monthly budget for a single person earning £6.50 per hour to prove that. Start by assuming 48hours a week. Then looking at a scenario of variable hours on a zero hours contract where work can vary from 4 to 48 hours a week, averaging 25 hours.

48 hours @ 6.50 per hour is take home £1,154.24 per month

Rent say £400 a month in a shared house or flat or maybe the whole flat or house depend where you live

Leaves £754 for gas , elec, travel and food. Want a break down?

See here is a flat in Manchester @ £350 a month
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-26792957.html

or Leeds at 380 http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-33151589.html

Just as examples

AP007

Southend1 wrote: »

I'm not sure how that's relevant at all?

Are you saying that's how people should be forced to live?

it IS relevant as YOU yes you are implying the NMW makes people live and the OP in poverty

notanewuser

Southend1 wrote: »

I'm not sure how that's relevant at all?

Are you saying that's how people should be forced to live?

No. I'm saying those of us that have experienced it (I have) aren't so bloody ungrateful/selfish.

Nor do we use the word poverty when we mean "relative comfort".

Southend1

notanewuser wrote: »

BECAUSE THIS COUNTRY IS BROKE!!!!!

In the 90s he could probably have earned a hundred quid an hour for sitting on his bum in a car. Not anymore. THAT'S LIFE!!!

Yes the media like to tell us that the country is broke.

How does that explain multimillion pound bonuses for failed bankers or the ever growing gap between the richest and poorest in society?

Is there not an argument for increasing the share of national income paid as wages, or at least narrowing the gap between the highest and lowest paid? A lot of influential people think there is.

scooby088

notanewuser wrote: »

Have you lived in poverty? Real poverty? No clean running water, no healthcare or education, no state handouts, no social housing, mud hut, hunt/grow your own food poverty?

No one lives like that in this country, so if that is poverty then I guess no one or very few on this dicussion have ever really experienced real poverty.

Southend1

AP007 wrote: »

it IS relevant as YOU yes you are implying the NMW makes people live and the OP in poverty

I'm not implying it, I'm saying explicitly that it does! And this is supported by influential research by the Rowntree Foundation.

I'm still waiting for one of the many posters here arguing that NMW provides for a comfortable lifestyle to show their workings!

AP007

Southend1 wrote: »

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I'm still waiting for one of the many posters here arguing that NMW provides for a comfortable lifestyle to show their workings!

I just posted it

Southend1

notanewuser wrote: »

No. I'm saying those of us that have experienced it (I have) aren't so bloody ungrateful/selfish.

Nor do we use the word poverty when we mean "relative comfort".

Everything is relative. That's not a good argument to support your view that because someone doesn't live in a mud hut with no running water that their standard of living is comfortable!

Southend1

AP007 wrote: »

I just posted it

Yes but you have not provided a breakdown or shown how an acceptable standard of living can be maintained when hours are variable or not guaranteed.

AP007

Southend1 wrote: »

Everything is relative. That's not a good argument to support your view that because someone doesn't live in a mud hut with no running water that their standard of living is comfortable!

I guess it wouldn't be comfortable at all but it sure is hardship.