how to get a pay rise

notanewuser

scooby088 wrote: »

£6.50 is a decent wage if you are single and only have yourself to fend for.

And if there are 2 of you it's cheaper to live, so £13 an hour between you should be plenty too.

Southend1

AP007 wrote: »

I am not making anything you are saying they have in hardship and are living in poverty!!!

You clearly implied I had not tried surviving on JSA alone. How can you know this to be true or untrue? It was an assumption about my personal circumstances!

I and many social researchers, politicians, academics, ordinary people etc believe NMW alone is not sufficient to reach an accpetabke standard of living. Hence the living wage campaign!

AP007

Southend1 wrote: »

You clearly implied I had not tried surviving on JSA alone. How can you know this to be true or untrue? It was an assumption about my personal circumstances!

I and many social researchers, politicians, academics, ordinary people etc believe NMW alone is not sufficient to reach an accpetabke standard of living. Hence the living wage campaign!

you implied the OP was living in poverty and hardship

I said JSA was hardship not being in work and made no attempt to say you knew nothing about JSA - show me?

notanewuser

Southend1 wrote: »

You clearly implied I had not tried surviving on JSA alone. How can you know this to be true or untrue? It was an assumption about my personal circumstances!

I and many social researchers, politicians, academics, ordinary people etc believe NMW alone is not sufficient to reach an accpetabke standard of living. Hence the living wage campaign!

So if the OP has been earning £7.45 for the past 6 years, do you agree he shouldn't be whinging for more?

Southend1

scooby088 wrote: »

£6.50 is a decent wage if you are single and only have yourself to fend for.

I challenge you to produce a monthly budget for a single person earning £6.50 per hour to prove that. Start by assuming 48hours a week. Then looking at a scenario of variable hours on a zero hours contract where work can vary from 4 to 48 hours a week, averaging 25 hours.

Southend1

AP007 wrote: »

you implied the OP was living in poverty and hardship

I said JSA was hardship not being in work and made no attempt to say you knew nothing about JSA - show me?

"How is it poverty wages? You and the OP have probably never experience poverty so really get a grip. Try JSA that's hardship!"

Southend1

notanewuser wrote: »

So if the OP has been earning £7.45 for the past 6 years, do you agree he shouldn't be whinging for more?

I'm not advocating any whining by anyone, because that would be childish!

Why should OPs real wage decline year on year until it reaches NMW?

notanewuser

Southend1 wrote: »

"How is it poverty wages? You and the OP have probably never experience poverty so really get a grip. Try JSA that's hardship!"

Have you lived in poverty? Real poverty? No clean running water, no healthcare or education, no state handouts, no social housing, mud hut, hunt/grow your own food poverty?

notanewuser

Southend1 wrote: »

I'm not advocating any whining by anyone, because that would be childish!

Why should OPs real wage decline year on year until it reaches NMW?

BECAUSE THIS COUNTRY IS BROKE!!!!!

In the 90s he could probably have earned a hundred quid an hour for sitting on his bum in a car. Not anymore. THAT'S LIFE!!!

DH's wages have eroded, I lose thousands per year due to sh1tty savings rates which don't keep up with inflation. WHY SHOULD PEOPLE EXPECT TO EARN THE SAME YEAR ON YEAR?

Southend1

notanewuser wrote: »

Have you lived in poverty? Real poverty? No clean running water, no healthcare or education, no state handouts, no social housing, mud hut, hunt/grow your own food poverty?

I'm not sure how that's relevant at all?

Are you saying that's how people should be forced to live?