Neighbours from Hell

Calien27

The HA put them there.

Are they supposed to live in complete isolation or something, in case the neighbors get annoyed or disturbed.

balletshoes

moromir wrote: »

I'm not sure how the noise could be classed as anything else?

The noise is loud, instrusive, without warning and distressing to the occupier of a surrounding property, which I'm pretty sure meets the objective definition of noise pollution.

I totally see that the OP could have been more diplomatic in their initial approach but I also think shes been totally sandbagged by the PC brigade
and I really think if she had said the noise was coming from any other source she would be receiving much better advice than she is currently getting on the thread.

that would depend on the source of the noise, for me. And of course the frequency and volume.

blues

Astonishing ignorance from some on here. The child is not an 'out of control' screaming brat, the child is disabled and so makes what are probably involuntary noises when upset or excited. This can't be 'controlled' so as not to upset the neighbours!

princessdon

Nicki wrote: »

The OP has already though asked the LA to evict the family and tried to mobilise a group of neighbours to complain about them fortunately unsuccessfully. She has been told by someone with no personal connection to the family that she is harassing them.

Would it be acceptable if she was asking for the family to be evicted because they were a same sex couple and it made her feel ick to see them holding hands under the gazebo? Or because they were black and she didn't like the smell of their "foreign food"? Victimisation of a family due to the disability of one member is as illegal as either of these acts yet few would surely come on a public forum and say someone should be allowed to do so because they had lived their longer and had retired due to ill health some years earlier.

Of course it's not, OP clearly hasn't idea, I just sympathise as I can see myself this way if I didn't have first hand experiences.

It's easy to judge both sides.

If OP had a different noise complaint answers would be different.

She pushed your buttons with poor wording and clearly doesn't get it, but objectively from her POV, she is experiencing problems with neighbours, HOW she is best to handle that is differing view points.

I think riling neighbours, complaints are unfair, I just think OP could do with practical suggestions not damnation. Anyway I'm off to bed, where I am grateful to sleep as tomorrow I have my nephew so need to conserve my strength.

shegirl

Treevo wrote: »

I feel for the OP. She didn't come across as the nicest person in her OP, but she's having to listen to awful noises in her flat all the time. This isn't great.

I don't think it's on at all for people to say that the OP should be helping her neighbours - she shouldn't feel obligated to do that at all. I'd actually question why a family with a child who makes such loud noises would move into a flat surrounded by others who will also be affected. So my sympathy for the situation is reserved for the OP.

It's not so much about helping.Just chatting and gaining a little understanding can make a huge difference in tolerance levels.I know the noises can scare,it did my elderly neighbours.But after talking and watching ds a bit it made the difference between them being worried and hating the noise and accepting it and not worrying anymore.Understanding makes them more comfortable.

It will also assist with the family being more open,explaining and being as considerate as they possibly can with the op.


Ps I really need to turn autocracy off,if anything looks stupid in my posts it's because I have missed bits I need to correct lol

Nicki

I usually hold my child in my arms and speak soothingly to her when she is making her involuntary sounds. Makes no difference to the volume or duration but makes ME feel better. If I pinned her to the floor and held a pillow over her head (not that I ever would) it would stop or muffle it not one whit. So am waiting with baited breath to hear how alyth thinks the situation can be managed

poet123

princessdon wrote: »

Of course it's not, OP clearly hasn't idea, I just sympathise as I can see myself this way if I didn't have first hand experiences.

It's easy to judge both sides.

If OP had a different noise complaint answers would be different.

She pushed your buttons with poor wording and clearly doesn't get it, but objectively from her POV, she is experiencing problems with neighbours, HOW she is best to handle that is differing view points.

I think riling neighbours, complaints are unfair, I just think OP could do with practical suggestions not damnation. Anyway I'm off to bed, where I am grateful to sleep as tomorrow I have my nephew so need to conserve my strength.

Of course that would be the case. If she was complaining about a new tenant moving in and playing the drums, or playing Heavy Metal, or any engaging in any other anti social activity then the sympathy would lie with her.

The important point here is that the noise does not stem from a choice, the child is disabled, he makes involuntary noises as a result of that.

Treevo

shegirl wrote: »

It's not so much about helping.Just chatting and gaining a little understanding can make a huge difference in tolerance levels.I know the noises can scare,it did my elderly neighbours.But after talking and watching ds a bit it made the difference between them being worried and hating the noise and accepting it and not worrying anymore.Understanding makes them more comfortable.

It will also assist with the family being more open,explaining and being as considerate as they possibly can with the op.


Ps I really need to turn autocracy off,if anything looks stupid in my posts it's because I have missed bits I need to correct lol

I was referring to the posts telling the OP that she should offer help to her neighbours, rather than her trying to understand the issues involved.

I do think the OP could have handled her reaction more sensitively, but I also think the neighbours actually have a responsibility to their new neighbours, to at least explain what may happen. Because if I was at home one day and I heard the noises that the OP describes, I'd be phoning the police within a minute.

shegirl

Nicki wrote: »

I usually hold my child in my arms and speak soothingly to her when she is making her involuntary sounds. Makes no difference to the volume or duration but makes ME feel better. If I pinned her to the floor and held a pillow over her head (not that I ever would) it would stop or muffle it not one whit. So am waiting with baited breath to hear how alyth thinks the situation can be managed

I'm about to call the NAS,Camhs,the LEA,etc Couldn't do me a favour and call the press could you?

Just think,if we're the ones to make it public knowledge we'll be quids in!

Treevo

shegirl wrote: »

I'm about to call the NAS,Camhs,the LEA,etc Couldn't do me a favour and call the press could you?

Just think,if we're the ones to make it public knowledge we'll be quids in!

Patent it first! And because that was my idea I want a 30% cut! Daddy's getting the summer house in France after all!:D:p:rotfl: