no pay rise for 5 years

AP007

tir21 wrote: »

why would they love it?

I am being sarcastic, as they don't! But do try it like you have been saying you will threaten them.

AP007

Southend1 wrote: »

A few years back I was earning £13250 pa and struggling with the bills. I asked several times for a rise but nothing doing, so got a new job with a start salary of £16500. On handing in my notice, the manager asked how much I would want to stay on. I replied £18,500 pa. She said fine, ok, effective immediately. Too late though as I had already decided to leave. Their loss.

So it does work sometimes, but OP's best chance of he wants to stay on at his current job is to join a union and become active within it. There's more clout in that than bargaining individually for a rise.

If you get a new job and then they offer you more £ and you stay then they know you weren't serious about leaving.

Did you threaten them that unless you got a pay rise you wouldn't stay?

A union has no power for the individual at all. If you get a pay rise and I don't you think a union will care?

Southend1

AP007 wrote: »

If you get a new job and then they offer you more £ and you stay then they know you weren't serious about leaving.

Did you threaten them that unless you got a pay rise you wouldn't stay?

A union has no power for the individual at all. If you get a pay rise and I don't you think a union will care?

It's called collective bargaining for a reason!

prowla

My company were messing people about with no pay rises, and a colleague in a similar role resigned.

I managed to collar my boss's boss in a bar and let him know that I was in a similar situation, but I would really prefer to stay.

I got a hefty pay rise.

This year I haven't had my annual review, so it looks like it might need escalating again.

tir21

south

So it does work sometimes, but OP's best chance of he wants to stay on at his current job is to join a union and become active within it.

if i join a union and im the only person in my company in that union, how would that make any difference?

silverwhistle

tir21 wrote: »

what type of prat refers to anyone as a minimum wage grunt?

Because some people on minimum wage are exactly that, and that's the way the company view them because they know that they can be replaced without too much effort or downside.

Other people on minimum wage aren't, and are being exploited. Some of those people allow themselves to be exploited because they don't investigate other options, and are not prepared to overcome inertia and act.

Look, I'm trying to point out that you have to give them a reason to pay you more. At the moment you aren't doing anything to help yourself.

Saying sarcastically "maybe i should resign and reapply" isn't recognising that this situation actually happens in the real world, so do a bit of discreet digging. Loosen a colleague's tongue with a drink after work.

"the market rate is as far as i am concerned the rate i was doing it for 5 years ago "

Oh, do what you want, for goodness sake, but since you are on the internet why not do a bit of research to see what you might be able to get.

tir21

AP007 wrote: »

If you get a new job and then they offer you more £ and you stay then they know you weren't serious about leaving.

i dont see how you can make that assumption.

and besides if you get what you ask for then it is of no consequence whether you were serious or not

AP007

Southend1 wrote: »

It's called collective bargaining for a reason!

You can not do any collective bargaining when all staff are on different salaries, different benefits and different everything even if they do the same job. If one person say in a team of ten gets no pay rise how will that work in their favour? Collectively no one will give a !!!!!

AP007

tir21 wrote: »

i dont see how you can make that assumption.

and besides if you get what you ask for then it is of no consequence whether you were serious or not

Oh but it is. I have seen this happen and the person was later overlooked for promotion as they were seen as not being 'serious'

gettingready

In December 2010 I have left a job that at that time was paying me 43k per year.

Had some rough times on the way but currently doing way better than in 2010.

My colleagues, who stayed in the job were downgraded twice since I left and are currently on around 30k per year and 3 years later should be on 49k (there used to be 2k extra every year).

They winge but do nothing to improve their prospects/look somewhere else.

If you are not happy with the pay and the employer is not happy to consider pay rise - start looking to move on.

All the best.