no pay rise for 5 years

tir21

just asked for a pay rise and amongst other things they replied


"recruitment levels suggest that our salaries are in line with similar employers. "

does this mean that they will never offer a pay rise while they can get people to work at the current rates - because some people might be prepared to work for these rates in ten years from now

they also say that all money comes from contracts they tender for. if there is no money for rises then it would seem inflationary pay rises are not part of their financial consideration when they bid for a contract. is it reasonable to ask if this policy will change when contracts are up for renewal?

thanks

AP007

tir21 wrote: »

just asked for a pay rise and amongst other things they replied


"recruitment levels suggest that our salaries are in line with similar employers. "

does this mean that they will never offer a pay rise while they can get people to work at the current rates - because some people might be prepared to work for these rates in ten years from now

they also say that all money comes from contracts they tender for. if there is no money for rises then it would seem inflationary pay rises are not part of their financial consideration when they bid for a contract. is it reasonable to ask if this policy will change when contracts are up for renewal?

thanks

It probably means they have a low staff turnover and feel they do not need to offer a pay rise.

No one is guaranteed a pay rise at all and one can get it will others don't so you can ask but if you have had nothing for 5 years and the business is doing well why not look for something new paying more?

C_Mababejive

Plenty of people are being served with pay cuts by draconian bosses these days..

ILW

tir21 wrote: »

just asked for a pay rise and amongst other things they replied


"recruitment levels suggest that our salaries are in line with similar employers. "

does this mean that they will never offer a pay rise while they can get people to work at the current rates - because some people might be prepared to work for these rates in ten years from now

they also say that all money comes from contracts they tender for. if there is no money for rises then it would seem inflationary pay rises are not part of their financial consideration when they bid for a contract. is it reasonable to ask if this policy will change when contracts are up for renewal?

thanks

Can you get more elsewhere?

tir21

ILW wrote: »

Can you get more elsewhere?

not sure. its just a shame when you enjoy a job and have shown yourself a reliable employee that you cant get say a 0.5% payrise every 4 or 5 years

if my enployer can retain staff without payrises i can never understand why any employer bothers with pay rises

Vectis

It depends on market forces and how important it is for them to keep you. If they could fill your position with someone equally qualified or experienced at the same or less cost then there's little incentive to give you a rise.

Or, maybe you've actually been paid more than the market rate for the past 5 years?

When quoting for work, our quotes are probably at the same level or even less than we were able to quote 5 years ago. Based on that, we wouldn't be able to afford to give pay rises if we had employees. I'm sure a lot of other companies are in the same position.

All I can advise is that if you're not happy then have a look around and see if you can get a better paying job elsewhere.

DKLS

no pay rise for 5 years!!! time to jump ship. (if your career minded)

I would have got out at the end of year 2 without a payrise.

falko89

Your lucky it hasn't went the other way. What you need to do is get another job, then give your reason for leaving as offered more money elsewhere, if your worth it your employer will play ball, if not just go, its win win.

little_miss_muppet_face

In 2007 I got a 10% pay cut, then nothing until last year when they doubled my wage after i complained we were well below market level, Not that this helps you but just wanted to say ..
Hope you get something sorted..

tir21

falko89 wrote: »

Your lucky it hasn't went the other way. What you need to do is get another job, then give your reason for leaving as offered more money elsewhere, if your worth it your employer will play ball, if not just go, its win win.

would an employer be able to dismiss an employee who threatened to start looking for another job if the pay freeze continued?

or could you inform your employer that you think their pay policy is demonstrating a lack of interest in retaining your sevices

tir21

in previous times a work force would go on strike if there had been no pay rises for 5 years.

what could an employer do about some of its staff going on strike or someone trying to organise some sort of industrial action

it seems that when no one is part of the same union in a company the employee is at a massive disadvantage