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  • tir21
    tir21 Posts: 1,030 Forumite
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    could a work force of say 75 employees form their own union

    is there anything an employee could threaten an employer with without having cause to be dismissed?

    work to rule or everyone refusing to go to meetings ?
  • shmeeko69
    shmeeko69 Posts: 392 Forumite
    tir21 wrote: »
    just asked for a pay rise and amongst other things they replied


    "recruitment levels suggest that our salaries are in line with similar employers. "

    does this mean that they will never offer a pay rise while they can get people to work at the current rates - because some people might be prepared to work for these rates in ten years from now

    they also say that all money comes from contracts they tender for. if there is no money for rises then it would seem inflationary pay rises are not part of their financial consideration when they bid for a contract. is it reasonable to ask if this policy will change when contracts are up for renewal?

    thanks

    I know some people would probably say "You should be thankful in having a job", but the reality is that, if inflation is at an average of 3% then, you'll be worse off by that amount each year and over 5 or 10 years that's quite sore on the wallet.

    It may be time to look elsewhere if your company don't really value what you bring to them.
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  • mrcow
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    tir21 wrote: »
    would an employer be able to dismiss an employee who threatened to start looking for another job if the pay freeze continued?

    or could you inform your employer that you think their pay policy is demonstrating a lack of interest in retaining your sevices


    Don't threaten it. Don't even mention it again. Just do it.

    Start shopping around. There are jobs to be had.

    If you don't think you're well paid for what you do, talk with your feet. There is no need to start chucking your toys out of the pram about it or making a fuss/working to rule etc. All that will do is make you an even less attractive prospect for them to hold on to!
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    Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."
  • tir21
    tir21 Posts: 1,030 Forumite
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    sorry just getting really stressed

    was inflation specifically designed to !!!! me off. I wouldnt mind not getting a pay rise if the cost of things didnt keep rising
  • mrcow
    mrcow Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    The alternative to asking for a payrise of course is to seek promotion. That will come with extra renumeration in itself. In a company of 75 employees, there's bound to be other (more well paid) positions you can look at? Put your name in the hat so they know you're serious.

    It's been upsetting, but perhaps have a think over the weekend about the positives that can come from today. Sometimes a little nudge in the right direction is all you need to make a big difference.
    "One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
    Because by then you've blown your chances. That's it."
  • Daedalus
    Daedalus Posts: 4,253 Forumite
    How are you paid to the market rate?
    What is the financial state of your company?
  • jobbingmusician
    jobbingmusician Posts: 20,347 Forumite
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    I run a charity. No one has had an increase for approx 6 yrs.
    Virtually all our income comes from contracts too, but the money we can bid for has diminished so much that we are lucky still to have jobs, and we know it.
    Ex board guide. Signature now changed (if you know, you know).
  • lemontart
    lemontart Posts: 6,037 Forumite
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    not had a payrise for 5 years either and they are looking at ways of cutting it
    I am responsible me, myself and I alone I am not the keeper others thoughts and words.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    tir21 wrote: »
    could a work force of say 75 employees form their own union

    is there anything an employee could threaten an employer with without having cause to be dismissed?

    work to rule or everyone refusing to go to meetings ?
    Threaten? Are you serious? IF you don't like the job and the pay go find another but yeah do tell them you are looking and they will make your life a misery no doubt.
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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    tir21 wrote: »
    not sure. its just a shame when you enjoy a job and have shown yourself a reliable employee that you cant get say a 0.5% payrise every 4 or 5 years

    if my enployer can retain staff without payrises i can never understand why any employer bothers with pay rises
    Who do you know others haven't got one?
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