no pay rise for 5 years

theoretica

scooby088 wrote: »

but then again your work doesn't have to recognise or even work with the union.

Under certain circumstances (enough worker support) work does have to recognise the union.

http://www.acas.org.uk/media/pdf/b/j/A02_1.pdf

slenderkitten

my angle would be is that in these economic times i would have to be satisfied that i have a regular income, if you are ok with your job and can stick it out it may be better to stay with them than jump ship and something goes wrong there or they get rid of you.

I've worked minimum wage agency jobs for 15 years; i've struggled but i've got on with it.

Just a thought. Good luck with what you want to do.

AP007

tir21 wrote: »

i think they will keep the same policy until enough people start kicking up a fuss about it


ok


i think they could find them selves in front of an industrial tribunal



im not bothered what they do

The only way companies learn is if the staff leave! High staff turnovers will make them think what have they been doing wrong.

You think you can take them to court for making you do unpaid overtime? Or giving you more work? I doubt that greatly.

If you aren't bothered what they will do then go ahead and threaten them because if you wanted a pay rise and you know you cant and wont get it there you should suck it up and look for a new job and then what would they do without you.

Southend1

theoretica wrote: »

Isn't this what unions were invented for? Find out which is the appropriate one and get as many work mates as possible to join and get support kicking up a group fuss.

This. Real terms wages are on the decline precisely because bosses count on the weakness of individual bargaining and the decline of the unions since the 1970s. Join your union, get recruiting, get recognised, get bargaining.

lyndorset

I don't know why you are complaining?! The government have set a non-pay increase for public sector workers for the last 5 years and next year we will get something ridiculous like 1/2 of 1%. Coupled with a no overtime payments, this has equated to a big pay cut for many people. As the cost of living has continued to rise, it is in fact a pay cut. Your firm are probably only in line with the public sector. It is a very frustrating, difficult situation and some of us have been seeking alternative employment for some time. That too is not as easy as it once was.

Ironically, of course MP's are getting a pay rise of more than most of us earn! I am surprised glancing through the replies that I am the furst public sector worker to respond.

falko89

AP007 wrote: »

The only way companies learn is if the staff leave! High staff turnovers will make them think what have they been doing wrong.

You think you can take them to court for making you do unpaid overtime? Or giving you more work? I doubt that greatly.

If you aren't bothered what they will do then go ahead and threaten them because if you wanted a pay rise and you know you cant and wont get it there you should suck it up and look for a new job and then what would they do without you.

The problem with that is there is an endless supply of people looking jobs these days, I know in previous jobs it was rare for someone to leave and unheard of for someone to get sacked, in my current job we have people starting and leaving every month.

AP007

falko89 wrote: »

The problem with that is there is an endless supply of people looking jobs these days, I know in previous jobs it was rare for someone to leave and unheard of for someone to get sacked, in my current job we have people starting and leaving every month.

So the OP can be easily replaced

falko89

AP007 wrote: »

So the OP can be easily replaced

I think unless you've a really unique set of skills everyone can be easily replaced these days.

Takeaway_Addict

lyndorset wrote: »

I don't know why you are complaining?! The government have set a non-pay increase for public sector workers for the last 5 years and next year we will get something ridiculous like 1/2 of 1%. Coupled with a no overtime payments, this has equated to a big pay cut for many people. As the cost of living has continued to rise, it is in fact a pay cut. Your firm are probably only in line with the public sector. It is a very frustrating, difficult situation and some of us have been seeking alternative employment for some time. That too is not as easy as it once was.

Ironically, of course MP's are getting a pay rise of more than most of us earn! I am surprised glancing through the replies that I am the furst public sector worker to respond.

1) its not a paycut, the cost of living is irrelevant to your wage
2) the MP's didn't vote for it themself

silverwhistle

tir21 wrote: »

no idea.....................

You've nbo idea of the financial state of your company?

Why not? It does suggest that you don't have a particularly important role there, or could be fairly easily replaced.

On the other hand you shouldn't just take the company's word that they have no problems with recruitment. Perhaps they offer new staff more?

You're coming on here complaining, and it's not a great situation to be in, but you really should:
- find out how healthy the company and sector are (and you really should know this already unless you are a minimum wage grunt),
- find out what colleague are earning or whether they have had pay rises (be discreet!), directors' pay normally needs to be published so that's a useful guide..
- find out what the market rate for your job is,
- start looking for alternatives.

Whenever you negotiate do so from the strongest position possible and that includes having the above information at your fingertips.