Tailgate and speed

Jamie_Carter

1886 wrote: »

It's 100% possible for a lorry to do 70mph. Firstly, when fully laden lorries go downhill you'll often see them braking. The momentum of the load and vehicle is pushing the lorry and the limiter can't control 44 tonnes.

That is why the limiters are set at 56mph, to allow for momentum. The speed limit for large goods vehicles on motorways is 60mph, and not 56mph as some people seem to think.

On many modern HGVs the limiter won't even allow momentum to take them over 60mph.

It would take a steep hill to push even an older HGV with a limiter fitted, well over 70mph. And they could still lose their license when they submit their tachograph records.

smashingyour...

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

They still have to have tachographs fitted, and they would record the speed. This would be a serious offence.

What serious offence?

smashingyour...

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

That is why the limiters are set at 56mph, to allow for momentum. The speed limit for large goods vehicles on motorways is 60mph, and not 56mph as some people seem to think.

On many modern HGVs the limiter won't even allow momentum to take them over 60mph.

It would take a steep hill to push even an older HGV with a limiter fitted, well over 70mph. And they could still lose their license when they submit their tachograph records.

How would they lose their licence?

Where is the type approved evidence of excess speed?

DKLS

interstellaflyer wrote: »

Err, excuse me, smahingyour was referring to my post where in fact I was doing 50mph in a 50mph limit. So you think sticking to the speed limit makes me some sort of retard?

If the cap fits

arcon5

interstellaflyer wrote: »

However, someone's got to check the tacho, I would think there are tens of thousands of drivers with valid HGV licences in this country, that's an awful lot of tachos to check, highly unlikely to get caught unless pulled over.

Tacographs after 28 days but less than 45 days I think it is have to go to the operator, often they will be scanned in to a specialist computer program and analysed automatically. There's probably also thousands of operators so its not as strenuous as you seem to make out

interstellaflyer

DKLS wrote: »

If the cap fits

So you do think that those that obey the law are retards?

Jamie_Carter

interstellaflyer wrote: »

However, someone's got to check the tacho, I would think there are tens of thousands of drivers with valid HGV licences in this country, that's an awful lot of tachos to check, highly unlikely to get caught unless pulled over.

Nobody has to check the individual tacho. Records must be sent to the operator each month. And they must have records for their whole fleet. Both the driver and the operator can be prosecuted if laws are not complied with.

Jamie_Carter

smashingyour... wrote: »

How would they lose their licence?

Where is the type approved evidence of excess speed?

Look it up rather than just arguing for the sake of it.

interstellaflyer

arcon5 wrote: »

Tacographs after 28 days but less than 45 days I think it is have to go to the operator, often they will be scanned in to a specialist computer program and analysed automatically. There's probably also thousands of operators so its not as strenuous as you seem to make out

That must be fairly recent, the last company I worked for that ran it's own HGVs they just used to box them up/file them, that was 8 years ago and the company was a large multi national organisation.

Jamie_Carter

interstellaflyer wrote: »

That must be fairly recent, the last company I worked for that ran it's own HGVs they just used to box them up/file them, that was 8 years ago and the company was a large multi national organisation.

The operators license holder must compile the records, and check for compliance. Their operators license is at risk if they don't do this. All records must also be available for inspection by VOSA at any time.

With digital tachos, all records must be stored on a database. And the vehicle tacho will also store information for up to a year.