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  • Tyzap
    Tyzap Posts: 2,112 Forumite
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    "The CAA expects all airlines to sign up to a third-party alternative dispute resolution service (ADR) by June 1."

    Yeh, we've seen this before and the airlines were not interested.

    It just smacks of the CAA's desperation to rid itself of EU261 responsibility and all it involves, it's been a poisoned challis right from the start.
    Please read Vaubans superb guide. To find it Google and then download 'vaubans guide'.
  • i made a claim for flight delay compensation back in september through the resolver service on this site, after some reminders , i have been told to contact The Civil aviation authority, has anybody had any luck with them or is it worth trying another site dealing with these claims? flight booked with BA but operated with american airlines , flight delay 253 mins from manchester to new york in nov 2012
  • DIYBaldyman
    DIYBaldyman Posts: 103 Forumite
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    annegordon wrote: »
    i made a claim for flight delay compensation back in september through the resolver service on this site, after some reminders , i have been told to contact The Civil aviation authority, has anybody had any luck with them or is it worth trying another site dealing with these claims? flight booked with BA but operated with american airlines , flight delay 253 mins from manchester to new york in nov 2012

    Forget CAA, even if they find in your favour (unlikely - they are ultimately funded by the airlines), they cannot enforce their findings on the airline - it's merely an opinion.

    Download Vauban's excellent guide & read it thoroughly...

    https://dl.orangedox.com/GdfSa4xUZdZI5GJadr/Vauban%27s%20Guide%20to%20Claiming%20Flight%20Dela%20%20y%20Compensation.pdf

    Then either issue a LBA yourself directly to the airline or use a no-win, no-fee solicitor if you don't feel confident doing it yourself.

    Post any further questions on the American Airlines thread & the regulars on this forum will help where we can.

    Good luck.
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    Flight delays - Vauban's Guide has been of immense help - please read it before posting questions - I'll be surprised if your answers aren't in there.
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  • evdg
    evdg Posts: 4 Newbie
    I am sorry if it is explained elsewhere but I did not find an answer to my question, so posting it here.

    My family were delayed leaving London for Charlotte (USA) in September 2014. From the email "The departure time for US Airways flight # 731 from London-Heathrow (LHR) to Charlotte-Douglas (CLT) on Monday, September 8, 2014 at 10:05 AM has changed. The flight is operating behind schedule due to aircraft maintenance. Your departure is now 3:55 PM. Please take a look at your updated flight information."

    A month ago I have applied for compensation (using the template letter here) as discovered we could claim.

    This is what I received today "Since flight 731 was delayed due to a lightning strike of the aircraft, American Airlines is not required to provide the compensation you have referred to."

    How can I verify the reason for the delay was the lightening strike and not maintenance as was first indicated. Or is there anything else I should check?
  • evdg
    evdg Posts: 4 Newbie
    And just to clarify - US Airways was taken over by American Airlines, hence these two names mentioned.
  • 111KAB
    111KAB Posts: 3,645 Forumite
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    edited 17 May 2016 at 8:29PM
    Does not matter if maintenance or lightning ...... both are not valid reason to say 'extraordinary circumstances'.


    http://www.bottonline.co.uk/press-releases/flight-delayed-passengers-can-claim-compensation-for-delays-caused-by-lightning-strikes
  • DIYBaldyman
    DIYBaldyman Posts: 103 Forumite
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    evdg wrote: »

    This is what I received today "Since flight 731 was delayed due to a lightning strike of the aircraft, American Airlines is not required to provide the compensation you have referred to."

    in addition to the advice from 111KAB below, AA are not factually correct. Flight 731 didn't take off on time, the lightning strike / delay had already taken place on a previous flight, therefore flight 731 was delayed due to maintenance / repairs following a lightning strike on a previous flight.

    This makes it a 'knock-on' delay which, even if it were 'extraordinary circumstances (which as KAB pointed out it wasn't), AA can't use it to avoid paying.

    Look up the Finnair judgement on Vauban's guide & use it in a LBA to the airline. You do have a valid claim.
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    SUCCESS THROUGH PERSEVERANCE.
    Flight delays - Vauban's Guide has been of immense help - please read it before posting questions - I'll be surprised if your answers aren't in there.
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    Old debt passed to collection agency? Issue CCA request & possibly have debt rendered unenforceable. Feb 2021 - £42 of old debt legally written off & cost £1 per account.
  • evdg
    evdg Posts: 4 Newbie
    Thank you both so much! I did read that guide but overlooked the Finnair case. Will now reply.

    Thank you!
  • DIYBaldyman
    DIYBaldyman Posts: 103 Forumite
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    evdg wrote: »
    Thank you both so much! I did read that guide but overlooked the Finnair case. Will now reply.

    Thank you!

    Another thing you could try to back-up your claim if needed;

    Check your flight details on flightstats.com - you'll need to register in order to access the historical flight data.

    Have a look to see if the information gives the actual aircraft registration number, then check US Airways / AA flights into Heathrow shortly before your scheduled departure time to see if you can find a delayed incoming flight for the same aircraft.

    If the previous flight was on-time to it's schedule, chances are that will be the flight that suffered the strike causing #731 to be delayed. If the previous flight was also delayed departing, the strike may have happened earlier than the immediately previous flight & may take some more trial & error searching to find the flight that actually suffered the strike.
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    SUCCESS THROUGH PERSEVERANCE.
    Flight delays - Vauban's Guide has been of immense help - please read it before posting questions - I'll be surprised if your answers aren't in there.
    April 2016 - successfully claimed €1600 from Thomas Cook for 6 hour delay in August 2015
    Old debt passed to collection agency? Issue CCA request & possibly have debt rendered unenforceable. Feb 2021 - £42 of old debt legally written off & cost £1 per account.
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