My husbeast is a cretin

VestanPance

Tropez wrote: »

But as I say, I actually think it's sleazier to spend a train journey eyeing up some girl you happen to think is hot. I would also think it would be very sleazy to sit on a park bench for the purposes of beauty spotting, which was also your suggestion.

I find it rather bizarre you assume that those who would visit a strip club are stupid enough to believe the girl is actually interested in them. Most are well aware they are not and those who might be generally have some sort of personality disorder.

If it were a choice between buying some overpriced drink and being an "idiot" or being some sort of sleazy little perv potentially making unwitting women feel uncomfortable, I'll take the overpriced booze.

I'm not suggesting go and perv at someone. I said if you want to view attractive women all you need to do is sit on a bench in any high street. The world is full of beautiful women.

Plus you can also safely assume that just about every woman who made her way into their office today had many men look at them and think they are attractive. That doesn't mean they sit and perv over them. That's for the knuckle draggers that search out strip clubs.

I'm just making a simple statement that if guys want visual beauty then they don't really have to go looking for it. It's all around them in every day life. Even more so when they have partnered up with someone they look upon this way.

I would say those that visit strip clubs are stupid. They're being fleeced for cash based on thinking with their pants.

Joons

I don't think all lap dancing clubs are sleazy, some are actually pretty high class with exceptionally beautiful women in them, if men want to go there and pay for a dance whether they're being over charged or not, it's up to them, it's their money. Yes men can look at women in the street but they can't see them naked and girating against a pole, not quite the same thing. I would happily sit and watch a beautiful lady do a pole dance, even women can appreciate their own sex.

VestanPance

I find pole dancing and the like laughable. It's about as far from sexy as I can imagine. Along with those pop music videos where bouncing your backside up and down is somehow supposed to be "sexy" rather than funny!

neverdespairgirl

Joons wrote: »

Your point made me think about a young girl I saw on my way to work this morning, she had a pair of shorts on, so short you actually saw the bottom half of her bum cheeks, disgusting but she was happily striding along, if I was staring, god knows what men were doing!!!

She must have been freezing! It's not that warm.

Tropez

VestanPance wrote: »

I'm not suggesting go and perv at someone. I said if you want to view attractive women all you need to do is sit on a bench in any high street. The world is full of beautiful women.

Plus you can also safely assume that just about every woman who made her way into their office today had many men look at them and think they are attractive. That doesn't mean they sit and perv over them. That's for the knuckle draggers that search out strip clubs.

I'm just making a simple statement that if guys want visual beauty then they don't really have to go looking for it. It's all around them in every day life. Even more so when they have partnered up with someone they look upon this way.

I would say those that visit strip clubs are stupid. They're being fleeced for cash based on thinking with their pants.

I would argue that it is a narrow minded viewpoint. Certainly, I'll concur that some of the more simple-minded individuals among us men folk who sound a lot like Beavis and Butthead visit strip clubs.

But there's plenty of other people who do for various reasons. There are, for example, those men who may be very nice, sweet, kind and all those things that people usually associate with being a decent person who, perhaps because of low self-esteem, crappy jobs/hours, lack of social skills etc. don't get the opportunity to have any form of interaction with women.

I don't think it is that big of a deal that they may choose to spend a bit of their money on a lapdance and some overpriced bottle of Grolsch. And the same can go for those who call the 900 numbers, or watch the webcam shows or whatever else. It's their money, after all, and I don't think it's any more stupid than those who spend their money collecting things that others have no interest in.

Because I have the luxury of assigning clients, I always assign myself the strip clubs. They tend to pay top dollar for their security arrangements and more often than not a number of the workers will take out contracts for home security. You see all sorts passing through the doors while surveying a job and the knuckle-draggers generally make up a small number of clientele - and are usually kicked out too.

Joons

VestanPance wrote: »

I find pole dancing and the like laughable. It's about as far from sexy as I can imagine. Along with those pop music videos where bouncing your backside up and down is somehow supposed to be "sexy" rather than funny!

Pole dancing is very intricate and difficult, there's classes all over the UK for beginners to advanced, it's actually hard work and not easy but each to their own, it's not your bag.

Scorpio33

VestanPance wrote: »

I'm not suggesting go and perv at someone. I said if you want to view attractive women all you need to do is sit on a bench in any high street. The world is full of beautiful women.

Plus you can also safely assume that just about every woman who made her way into their office today had many men look at them and think they are attractive. That doesn't mean they sit and perv over them. That's for the knuckle draggers that search out strip clubs.

I'm just making a simple statement that if guys want visual beauty then they don't really have to go looking for it. It's all around them in every day life. Even more so when they have partnered up with someone they look upon this way.

I would say those that visit strip clubs are stupid. They're being fleeced for cash based on thinking with their pants.

So where are these places that women walk around just in there bra and knickers?

Tropez

VestanPance wrote: »

I find pole dancing and the like laughable. It's about as far from sexy as I can imagine. Along with those pop music videos where bouncing your backside up and down is somehow supposed to be "sexy" rather than funny!

By the same token though I don't find feet very sexy but there's plenty of foot fetishists out there.

What is sexy is clearly very subjective.

Joons

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

She must have been freezing! It's not that warm.

She had black opaque tights on, I think if not, she'd have been arrested for indecent explosure and I'm not joking. I actually thought I wish I could tap her shoulder and say, don't dress like that, it's not a good look, unless you are trying to attract pervs and dirty mac men but luckily, I refrained!

VestanPance

Joons wrote: »

Pole dancing is very intricate and difficult, there's classes all over the UK for beginners to advanced, it's actually hard work and not easy but each to their own, it's not your bag.

I didn't say it wasn't difficult. I said I don't find it sexy. That's two very different things.