Update on my DD

verysillyguy06

shegirl wrote: »

Ah,that gave me a much needed laugh:rotfl:

We are the jacks of all trades, dont you know??

shegirl

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

The main problem with any of the 'usual' training that does not include holds, is like teaching grannies to suck eggs.

I am by no leap of imagination advocating physical holds but it is needed as a last resort. However, many need two people to be used safely and I certainly have not found a provider that will teach parents

They definitely are needed at times and as parents (untrained) we need to be careful too.I'm pretty sure we'd get jumped on if we accidently marked them!

DS male teaching assistant is trained (and just an amazing person:o)and had to help me this morning for ds safety (next to road),but after holding him firmly he just bunged him over his shoulder,in a firemans lift,and carried him down to school:rotfl: In a friendly manner I add!

Unfortunately,he is the only one of ds staff trained in restraint now,so the poor guy is on his own and also the one ds is attached to,so the one he'll hurt if in major meltdown,but he does bloody well,will only use if he needs to and will always try an alternative

shegirl

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

We are the jacks of all trades, dont you know??

Master of none?

jayII

shegirl wrote: »

Master of none?

Oh, I don't know. I can think of one. :whistle:

verysillyguy06

jayII wrote: »

Oh, I don't know. I can think of one. :whistle:

All that is needed, surely :A:D

verysillyguy06

shegirl wrote: »

Master of none?

That would be telling.......:A

jayII

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

All that is needed, surely :A:D

I can't say I'm complaining. :T

daska

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Because parents dont try and fully understand how things work and then become all high and mighty like you. You have utterly misunderstood the role of CAF...

1. Integrated services and Social Care have not got the same boss

2. A CAF is a meeting to get all people around the table that could support the family...a CAF Team does not exist formally. It is each time different as it changes from family to family but often organised by a professional and held in a Children's Centre, not in a Social Care building

3. A CAF is a Common Assessment Framework that is used by a team of professionals to assess less high levels of need....a meeting that is before Social care and has got nothing to do with Social Care unless the CAF agrees to refer to Social Care

Just to start you off

I can understand why you might think I misunderstand but here the CAF coordinators come under the same umbrella. I ended up dealing with the their boss after the CAF was closed down without any discussion - not difficult for the coordinator to do as we no longer had a lead professional to drive it forward.

My care manager and her boss and the lady from parent partnership and DS2's teacher were aghast at behaviour of the other professionals at the final meeting and congratulated us on having the courage to complain and on the letter we sent. They said if anything our complaint had been too 'kind'.

verysillyguy06

daska wrote: »

I can understand why you might think I misunderstand but here the CAF coordinators come under the same umbrella. I ended up dealing with the their boss after the CAF was closed down without any discussion - not difficult for the coordinator to do as we no longer had a lead professional to drive it forward.

My care manager and her boss and the lady from parent partnership and DS2's teacher were aghast at behaviour of the other professionals at the final meeting and congratulated us on having the courage to complain and on the letter we sent. They said if anything our complaint had been too 'kind'.

Sounds rubbish, they are obviously failing many families.....sorry to hear

daska

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Both you and darlyd disagree with Health Professionals and think they know best whilst Social Care does not do what you think is needed for your children?

Neither one stated yet what help you do get...

You both remind me of that man who called me to complain about his bin not having been emptied....surely I know about his bin?

We are all council and should do some work for a change :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

:rotfl:

But that's the whole point. I can't tell you what help I get from Children's Services because I get no help from Children's Services. They told us to ring them when DS2 gets a diagnosis because they're not allowed to help until he gets one. He actually has 3 so far but obviously none of them are on the list of diagnoses that count. The CAF was shut down without discussion after we complained about the behaviour of the professionals at the last meeting. And as I already confirmed I do get help from Adult Services but they are hampered by having too few people for too large a caseload, my personal budget is 3 months past expiring and my care manager is off sick...

And I'd be very glad if you could sort out the problems I have with getting my bins emptied, I have to ring nearly every week to point out they forgot me again - I know the call centre staff by name now, I say "It's me again, that gobby mare from xxx" and we have a giggle about it.