Update on my DD

verysillyguy06

daska wrote: »

LOL, between two stools is exactly right - no prize for answering the following question correctly: do the CAF team and Children's Services have the same boss? The CAF if anything was even worse, we sat there with a numpty of a school nurse telling us that we should reward our 4 year old (with severe language delay and sensory processing problems, probable ASD and ADHD etc,) by giving him smarties if he slept through the night :wall: As he would have had no concept of why he was being rewarded = oh goody, if I get out of bed I get sweets. :eek: Also got told we obviously had no boundaries because we didn't have locks on all the cupboards and doors - no, we don't, because he had learned to knock before entering our room and the only food he would steal was dry pasta, carrots and apples which we kept out of reach. Cue formal letter to complain about the attitude of the various professionals there who hadn't even bothered to read the reports explaining his behaviour to which the response was to close down the CAF! And SS wonder why parents have such a low opinion of them :laugh:

Because parents dont try and fully understand how things work and then become all high and mighty like you. You have utterly misunderstood the role of CAF...

1. Integrated services and Social Care have not got the same boss

2. A CAF is a meeting to get all people around the table that could support the family...a CAF Team does not exist formally. It is each time different as it changes from family to family but often organised by a professional and held in a Children's Centre, not in a Social Care building

3. A CAF is a Common Assessment Framework that is used by a team of professionals to assess less high levels of need....a meeting that is before Social care and has got nothing to do with Social Care unless the CAF agrees to refer to Social Care

Just to start you off

jayII

What is a CAF team? Okay, I'm not a social worker but I work in a similar area and have never heard of this. I admit that I'm not an expert, so maybe I've missed something...

A CAF is an assessment structure/framework which can be used by any appropriate professional(s) to assess children or adults. Isn't it?


ETA: VSG has edited above and answered my query.

gizmo111

pigpen wrote: »

So there are no parents doing martial arts? Best tell my oldest son he obviously doesnt know!

And yes they do.. I have a friend with a very large autistic daughter who was trained by a SS dept and did the qualifications herself and now offers training to parents through the Autism group.

Sillyguy is correct.

If parents are doing martial arts that is self funded - not taught by SS.

SS will talk you through behaviour management. Some private foster care agencies will teach you the basics - but bruise or mark a child when using restraining techniques and job centre here you come.

pigpen

gizmo111 wrote: »

Sillyguy is correct.

If parents are doing martial arts that is self funded - not taught by SS.

SS will talk you through behaviour management. Some private foster care agencies will teach you the basics - but bruise or mark a child when using restraining techniques and job centre here you come.

I never said martial arts or self defence taught by SS .. but here SS do teach the restraining procedures to parents because I know people who have been taught.

verysillyguy06

pigpen wrote: »

I never said martial arts or self defence taught by SS .. but here SS do teach the restraining procedures to parents because I know people who have been taught.

Is that is Scotland? It certainly is not the norm in many English counties or if in an English County, it is not the norm all over

verysillyguy06

daska wrote: »

LOL, between two stools is exactly right - no prize for answering the following question correctly: do the CAF team and Children's Services have the same boss? The CAF if anything was even worse, we sat there with a numpty of a school nurse telling us that we should reward our 4 year old (with severe language delay and sensory processing problems, probable ASD and ADHD etc,) by giving him smarties if he slept through the night :wall: As he would have had no concept of why he was being rewarded = oh goody, if I get out of bed I get sweets. :eek: Also got told we obviously had no boundaries because we didn't have locks on all the cupboards and doors - no, we don't, because he had learned to knock before entering our room and the only food he would steal was dry pasta, carrots and apples which we kept out of reach. Cue formal letter to complain about the attitude of the various professionals there who hadn't even bothered to read the reports explaining his behaviour to which the response was to close down the CAF! And SS wonder why parents have such a low opinion of them :laugh:

Both you and darlyd disagree with Health Professionals and think they know best whilst Social Care does not do what you think is needed for your children?

Neither one stated yet what help you do get...

You both remind me of that man who called me to complain about his bin not having been emptied....surely I know about his bin?

We are all council and should do some work for a change :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

squirrelchops

CAF is the Common Assessment Framework but it is TAC/TAF - Team Around the Child/Team Around the Family that are the working group, so to speak that work to the needs identified in the CAF.

squirrelchops

I was a qualified instructor for PRICE - Protecting Rights In a Caring Environment - i.e. physical restraint training. De escalation was a huge part of this with physical holding only to be used as a final resort.

shegirl

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Both you and darlyd disagree with Health Professionals and think they know best whilst Social Care does not do what you think is needed for your children?

Neither one stated yet what help you do get...

You both remind me of that man who called me to complain about his bin not having been emptied....surely I know about his bin?

We are all council and should do some work for a change :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Ah,that gave me a much needed laugh:rotfl:

verysillyguy06

The main problem with any of the 'usual' training that does not include holds, is like teaching grannies to suck eggs.

I am by no leap of imagination advocating physical holds but it is needed as a last resort. However, many need two people to be used safely and I certainly have not found a provider that will teach parents