Update on my DD

verysillyguy06

daska wrote: »

Yes I do, obviously Adult Services wouldn't be involved otherwise. But DS2 has severe sensory problems among other things which lead to violent episodes (it takes 3 adults to restrain him at school!) yet Children's Services always walk away after their assessments saying everything's fine and to ring them back when he has a diagnosis and then they will get involved. So... if everything's fine why would they suddenly become involved if he gets another diagnosis? The only difference a diagnosis would make would be to give them a name to write in a box. The needs would be exactly the same.

So forgive me if I'm more than a little cynical about the ability of Children's Services to teflon coat their shoulders whenever possible...

Not good, our services have changed the eligibility criteria to get away from people needing a diagnosis as it is more important to look how your whole life is affected.

You sadly like many others may fall between chairs which is never good. In the past the Disability team and may still in your area would ask a child to have a diagnosis, you could challenge this or a professional could ...then a family would end up either with a CAF which are as good as the lead professional or a referral to the safeguarding team which struggle with children with SEN if there are no CP concerns.

Have you had a CAF or tried integrated services?

Dunroamin

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Not good, our services have changed the eligibility criteria to get away from people needing a diagnosis as it is more important to look how your whole life is affected.

You sadly like many others may fall between chairs which is never good. In the past the Disability team and may still in your area would ask a child to have a diagnosis, you could challenge this or a professional could ...then a family would end up either with a CAF which are as good as the lead professional or a referral to the safeguarding team which struggle with children with SEN if there are no CP concerns.

Have you had a CAF or tried integrated services?

"stools":)

verysillyguy06

dunroamin wrote: »

"stools":)

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verysillyguy06

Dunroamin wrote: »

"stools":)

Aw yes you mean 'fall between two stools'......got it! Cheers :)

pigpen

Phones are easy.. they refuse to had themover you ring up and report it missing/stolen and they are instantly disconnected..

As a parent if you don't know the moves I'd recommend asking SS for training in safe handling of violent children/teens.. they do offer it as they train teachers to restrain pupils. Or self defence lessons, or a martial art.. then she can try to hit you and you can stop her and restrain as necessary safely.. only 1 of mine has ever hit me. He has learning difficulties but not bad enough he doesn't know right from wrong.. I was 6 months pregnant, he head butted me so I did it back and pinned him against a wall and gave a right dressing down.. he threatened it once last year since and I informed him he would be straight at the police station if he touched me again and he would never come home again.. he is 17 now.

camhs are so crap I don't even know how they still get funding, total mickey mouse organisation..

verysillyguy06

pigpen wrote: »

Phones are easy.. they refuse to had themover you ring up and report it missing/stolen and they are instantly disconnected..

As a parent if you don't know the moves I'd recommend asking SS for training in safe handling of violent children/teens.. they do offer it as they train teachers to restrain pupils. Or self defence lessons, or a martial art.. then she can try to hit you and you can stop her and restrain as necessary safely.. only 1 of mine has ever hit me. He has learning difficulties but not bad enough he doesn't know right from wrong.. I was 6 months pregnant, he head butted me so I did it back and pinned him against a wall and gave a right dressing down.. he threatened it once last year since and I informed him he would be straight at the police station if he touched me again and he would never come home again.. he is 17 now.

camhs are so crap I don't even know how they still get funding, total mickey mouse organisation..

Sadly, this is wrong. No-one will teach parents due to Insurance reasons

pigpen

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Sadly, this is wrong. No-one will teach parents due to Insurance reasons

So there are no parents doing martial arts? Best tell my oldest son he obviously doesnt know!

And yes they do.. I have a friend with a very large autistic daughter who was trained by a SS dept and did the qualifications herself and now offers training to parents through the Autism group.

shegirl

pigpen wrote: »

So there are no parents doing martial arts? Best tell my oldest son he obviously doesnt know!

And yes they do.. I have a friend with a very large autistic daughter who was trained by a SS dept and did the qualifications herself and now offers training to parents through the Autism group.

No they do not.

Furthermore,training usually comes via the health authority.

NONE OF IT is available to us parents.

verysillyguy06

pigpen wrote: »

So there are no parents doing martial arts? Best tell my oldest son he obviously doesnt know!

And yes they do.. I have a friend with a very large autistic daughter who was trained by a SS dept and did the qualifications herself and now offers training to parents through the Autism group.

That is the very first time I have heard this, sadly certainly not happening in North Yorkshire!

I spoke to the Autistic Society and they only do 'descalating techniques' without any holds and TEACH TEACH will only teach professionals.

A parent could , I suppose do it privately but certainly no-one from the Social Care department will do it....I am desperate for it for some of my cases and tried to find some for years

I agree however that CAMHS is hopeless

daska

verysillyguy06 wrote: »

Not good, our services have changed the eligibility criteria to get away from people needing a diagnosis as it is more important to look how your whole life is affected.

You sadly like many others may fall between chairs which is never good. In the past the Disability team and may still in your area would ask a child to have a diagnosis, you could challenge this or a professional could ...then a family would end up either with a CAF which are as good as the lead professional or a referral to the safeguarding team which struggle with children with SEN if there are no CP concerns.

Have you had a CAF or tried integrated services?

LOL, between two stools is exactly right - no prize for answering the following question correctly: do the CAF team and Children's Services have the same boss? The CAF if anything was even worse, we sat there with a numpty of a school nurse telling us that we should reward our 4 year old (with severe language delay and sensory processing problems, probable ASD and ADHD etc,) by giving him smarties if he slept through the night :wall: As he would have had no concept of why he was being rewarded = oh goody, if I get out of bed I get sweets. :eek: Also got told we obviously had no boundaries because we didn't have locks on all the cupboards and doors - no, we don't, because he had learned to knock before entering our room and the only food he would steal was dry pasta, carrots and apples which we kept out of reach. Cue formal letter to complain about the attitude of the various professionals there who hadn't even bothered to read the reports explaining his behaviour to which the response was to close down the CAF! And SS wonder why parents have such a low opinion of them :laugh: