Social services onto me about not having child in nursery! Advice needed

shirlgirl2004

Nicki wrote: »

Because there is no foul language or bullying in adult life?

The biggest thing home educated children miss out on IMO is being able to thrive in a large group without adult supervision, and the opportunity to choose for themselves from a wide pool of candidates who to befriend and who can and cannot be trusted.

Living your entire childhood and adolescence in an environment so tightly controlled by a parent does not fit most people for adult life. The only people I know (both children and adults) who have been wholly or predominantly home schooled are all fairly naive individuals and in some cases quite socially odd.

That being said I don't consider that parents who decide to home school don't give a damn about their kids or that it isn't a good choice for a loving parent.

Believe me there are lots of socially odd children in school. I know of several families who have taken their "odd" children out of school because of the bullying so proportionally there might be a higher incidence. Children that are "different" either socially or academically are often withdrawn from school but that doesn't make home education the cause does it? Of course another word for odd could be individual. My daughter hates pink and we embrace that. She recently went to a party with some schooled children and TBH the schooled children had skirts barely covering their backsides at the age of 9. I'd rather odd than precocious.

miduck

johnnyl wrote: »

Ive addressed the bit that matters.

The latter is a moot point otherwise we would inspect every kid just in case they were being abused. Do we do that? No
Why? because it takes up resource. So we have to do it on the basis of information and evidence. If your standard of proof is opting out of an optional thing then so be it. Mine isnt.

So you are happy that no concerns are investigated unless there are signs of physical harm? It is a simple yes or no answer ...

Nicki

I was at university with a girl who had been home educated by parents who were similar to you! She wore knee socks, brown buckled sandals and a floral anorak with a hood and carried a school bag. She definitely did not have a boyfriend in her 3 years there and I am fairly sure she had no friends either because she stuck out like a complete sore thumb.

I find the idea that an adult would think a 9 year old girl in a short skirt to be sexually precocious to be very distasteful and it says miles more about the adult than the children in my opinion.

johnnyl

msb5262 wrote: »

Are you really suggesting that society does not have a responsibility to keep children safe?

no, Im suggesting what I actually said was that it does not necessarily follow that the state knows best. There have been numerous SYSTEMATIC errors resulting in the destruction of peoples liveson the say so of so called experts and their expert knowledge at the time.

johnnyl

miduck wrote: »

So you are happy that no concerns are investigated unless there are signs of physical harm? It is a simple yes or no answer ...

no, it isnt a simple yes or no answer. I expect concerns to be investigated however choosing to opt out of something does not represent a concern expecially considering that you are allowed to opt out of it.

nickyhutch

johnnyl wrote: »

no, it isnt a simple yes or no answer. I expect concerns to be investigated however choosing to opt out of something does not represent a concern expecially considering that you are allowed to opt out of it.

It CAN represent a concern - how don't you get that, when poster after poster has outlined why?

barbarawright

Has the OP returned?

Mrs.W_2

johnnyl wrote: »

no, it isnt a simple yes or no answer. I expect concerns to be investigated however choosing to opt out of something does not represent a concern expecially considering that you are allowed to opt out of it.

I completely agree with the italic'd text.

Some HV's are highly trained but far from professional. The HV I saw undermined the confidence of first time Mums (she was universally disliked at local M's&B's groups). When my second child arrived, my midwife was happy to tell the woman she wasn't wanted. She no longer works as a HV.

When a professional allows personality to affect their job, then they negate all your 'the national policy is..' or 'common sense dictates...' answers.

365days

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

Believe me there are lots of socially odd children in school. I know of several families who have taken their "odd" children out of school because of the bullying so proportionally there might be a higher incidence. Children that are "different" either socially or academically are often withdrawn from school but that doesn't make home education the cause does it? Of course another word for odd could be individual. My daughter hates pink and we embrace that. She recently went to a party with some schooled children and TBH the schooled children had skirts barely covering their backsides at the age of 9. I'd rather odd than precocious.

I'm genuinely interested in your view. As a mum of a child with Aspergers who some would definately see as 'odd' and also a primary teacher.

School for him is a challenge, having said that, it is a microcosm of the world he will enter in adulthood. In an earlier post you said you don't want your children exposed to 'foul language and bullying' I take it you realise that these things happen everywhere, not just in schools. When will you allow your children to be exposed to such things? Or do you think you will be able to protect them from it forever?

I have to agree that some clothes worn by youngsters are inappropriate but that is down to parental choice and nothing to do with school so not sure how that supports your argument.

POPPYOSCAR

Mrs.W wrote: »

I completely agree with the italic'd text.

Some HV's are highly trained but far from professional. The HV I saw undermined the confidence of first time Mums (she was universally disliked at local M's&B's groups). When my second child arrived, my midwife was happy to tell the woman she wasn't wanted. She no longer works as a HV.

When a professional allows personality to affect their job, then they negate all your 'the national policy is..' or 'common sense dictates...' answers.

Could not agree more.