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Should I be more cross with her?

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  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    It's a sanction that cancels out an R2, which is a reward (when you have enough of them), and I *think* two C1's in a day, or is it week, means a detention after school. I'm not 100% sure as she has never had one before!

    The reason she is not that bothered is the fact that she has shed loads of R2's already and isn't fussed by losing one. She says 'it was worth it'

    Now there's a girl with a good sense of profit and loss. I see a future for her in business. :D
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  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Tiglath wrote: »
    DH is a teacher. He said if he'd been silly enough to put himself in that situation as a teacher, he'd take it on the chin, say 'Fair enough' and apologise.

    When I was at school, we had a teacher who would dole out punishments according to convention and rules. But, sometimes he would take the student to one side and agree that the rule was unfair and that the punishment didn't have to be carried out, or could be commuted. He would publicly issue the punishment to avoid showing weakness.
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  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    The teacher is a human, we all make mistakes

    I do beleive her, she is a very honest person.

    It wouldn't be fair if I didn't hear the other side of the story though.

    The difference is though, that humans will admit their mistakes and learn from them.
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  • He has basically ridiculed her and belittled her infront of her whole class. I personally would be up that school Monday morning and requesting he apologise to her infront of her whole class and also get it in writing put inside her report book and a wriiten apology place with the headteacher, (on his personal record).

    Her response is what I would expect from an embarressed teenager, just sticking up for herself and her upbringing. I came from a poor, rundown area and grew up fine, (professional job).

    What he has done is singled her out, (by getting pupils to acknowledge they live there) and made out that of course she comes from there because it's her.

    Disgusting attitude from a teacher, I'd be furious.
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  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    He has basically ridiculed her and belittled her infront of her whole class. I personally would be up that school Monday morning and requesting he apologise to her infront of her whole class and also get it in writing put inside her report book and a wriiten apology place with the headteacher, (on his personal record).

    Her response is what I would expect from an embarressed teenager, just sticking up for herself and her upbringing. I came from a poor, rundown area and grew up fine, (professional job).

    What he has done is singled her out, (by getting pupils to acknowledge they live there) and made out that of course she comes from there because it's her.

    Disgusting attitude from a teacher, I'd be furious.

    Although I would agree that the teacher was unprofessional, I think it would be an overreaction to demand public apologies. That will only make it worse for everyone.
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  • Mrs.W_2
    Mrs.W_2 Posts: 584 Forumite
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    Mojisola wrote: »
    What would worry me about this kind of attitude - especially if it's not just confined to this one teacher - is that children from that estate will be treated differently because "no-one from there turns out well".

    Prejudices affect the way we interact with other people, sometimes unconsciously, and can lead to reduced expectations.
    For a teacher to suggest a child from a certain address would be more troublesome than other classmates is extremely worrying.

    I'd be fuming, wanting to demand of the headteacher, "How else might a bigoted way of thinking affect the treatment of his students?"

    But as soon as my temper had cooled, I'd see that the teacher in question really shot himself in the foot, tried to make light of the situation but was still bested by a teenager. He must have felt angry and pitiful. Hence the detention.

    Hopefully the OP's daughter gave that teacher pause for thought!
  • Perhaps a wee 'punnie' for the teacher.... 100 lines "I will not be rude to pupils and will think before I speak"
  • Lol. Go your daughter, you obviously brought her up well :) I did a little air punch when I heard her reply, though I wouldn't tell her that.

    I wouldn't do anything formal now. But next teachers night I'd just say very quietly 'I understand you think where my daughter lives is pretty scummy, is she doing ok considering?' and see how many colours he turns as he tries to justify/explain himself. Mark his card a little without making it formal. You could add 'of course luckily for you I'm too well brought up to complain' if he doesn't take it seriously (though I think he will). I think your reading of him as just stupidly putting his foot in it is right.
  • pollypenny
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    I haven't had time to read whole thread, but I would have a word with the teacher myself.

    If true, he. It only made derogatory comments about where you live, but humiliated your daughter by saying ' there's always one.'

    It's also true that teachers' comments can be taken out of context and misconstrued. I was once pulled up for apparently slagging off a fodder primary school. Needless to say, I had not.

    Give the teacher a chance to explain and/or eat humble pie.
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  • victory
    victory Posts: 16,188 Forumite
    I reckon the teacher was trying to be funny, strange way to behave, saying things like that in a whole class of witnesses that will side with your DD and not the teacher.

    His 'sense of humour' will show him up for the ignorant teacher he is;);)
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