Should I be more cross with her?

mrcow

Person_one wrote: »

Well I'm fuming and I don't even know your daughter.

Definitely definitely a formal complaint I'd say. I'd be demanding that the teacher gets sent for some training about prejudice and discrimination.

Maybe he should go and sit in on a few A level sociology classes too.

But you've only heard one side of the story.

Do you not think that perhaps before you go in demanding the odds, you should get a balanced overview of what actually happened?

custardy

thatgirlsam wrote: »

My dd, she is 13, has come home today with a C1 (punishment at school) for being rude to a teacher, she was worried to tell me but did so straight away.

In class today the teacher was making derogatory comments about the estate we live on, saying how rough it is and just awful etc. He asked the class who here lives on *our estate*.

She put her hand up, he then rolled his eyes and said 'oh there's always one'

She said 'It really isn't that bad Sir'. He said, 'well where do you know that's worse than *our estate*.

She said 'Your road', he asks why, she says 'Because you live on it'

He gives her a C1 for being rude. Usually, with my kids, if they are in trouble at school, then they're in trouble at home, but I don't really feel cross with her. I just told a couple of people, one says I should go mad at the teacher, one says I should go mad at my dd

I do realise this is a bit of a non-event but we are stuck in on a snowy day and wondered your opinions!

I side with your daughter on this. She did wellto put the teacher in his place.
I would personally be popping in for a chat with him to see what his issue was with where I lived.

Person_one

mrcow wrote: »

But you've only heard one side of the story.

Do you not think that perhaps before you go in demanding the odds, you should get a balanced overview of what actually happened?

The OP knows her daughter, we don't. My answer is based on an assumption that the story is factual.

Justicia

There are many young people today who feel worthless, due to their upbringing, background, etc. and feel that it's not worthwhile even trying to better themselves. An amount of these individuals then pursue the drug cultures, petty crime, etc.

I am not in anyway suggesting that the OP's daughter is going to go this way - I suspect not, from what we are reading in the OP's posts.

HOWEVER, if what was reported is in fact true and the exchange did happen as reported, why on earth is a teacher (of all professions) contributing to giving a feeling like I referred to in my first paragraph to his own pupils, that he is there to positively influence and encourage???

I can accept, though not condone, that a classroom conversation went quickly off-track and the teacher may have said something that he in hindsight shouldn't (regarding the estate) and may have realised at that split-second that it was not appropriate, but then to ask for hands-up and make a comment such as "there's always one" is inexcusable... :eek:

mrcow

Person_one wrote: »

The OP knows her daughter, we don't. My answer is based on an assumption that the story is factual.

Well don't assume that and then go in issuing such demands to a school unless you're prepared to risk walking away with rather a lot of egg on your face!

Person_one

mrcow wrote: »

Well don't assume that and then go in issuing such demands to a school unless you're prepared to risk walking away with rather a lot of egg on your face!

Um, I'm commenting on the internet...

thatgirlsam

Person_one wrote: »

The OP knows her daughter, we don't. My answer is based on an assumption that the story is factual.

And honestly, I do tend to believe her, she is not the kind of child to be rude in class, she has never, ever been in trouble at school before. She takes school very seriously, she spends hours on her homework and starts it the minute she gets home from school! She is also really honest and wouldn't like to let herself down by lying.

But, I do take mrcow's point and will get to the bottom of it before I start gobbing off at school (i wouldn't do that really)

Justicia

mrcow wrote: »

But you've only heard one side of the story.

...and I would really like to get the other, but this is the internet and a discussion forum, so it's unlikely that I (or others) will get much more to go on, so we have to cautiously base our responses on the information provided.

Person_one wrote: »

The OP knows her daughter, we don't. My answer is based on an assumption that the story is factual.

Exactly.

ETA: To provide some background to my responses: I do teach and lecture myself in the electrical industry (but to an adult audience), so I do know that it's very possible for in-class group discussions to go "wonky," but it's important to be able to recover the discussion quickly and effectively without causing (further?) offense or digging a deeper hole.

Sambucus_Nigra

Surely he would have had to say something in the first place to warrant a response from her; unless people think the whole story is made up and she got punishment for something completely unrelated?

poet123

I agree I would ring and ask to speak to the teacher and get his side of the story. If your daughter's version is correct he was completely out of order.