Should I be more cross with her?

thatgirlsam

My dd, she is 13, has come home today with a C1 (punishment at school) for being rude to a teacher, she was worried to tell me but did so straight away.

In class today the teacher was making derogatory comments about the estate we live on, saying how rough it is and just awful etc. He asked the class who here lives on *our estate*.

She put her hand up, he then rolled his eyes and said 'oh there's always one'

She said 'It really isn't that bad Sir'. He said, 'well where do you know that's worse than *our estate*.

She said 'Your road', he asks why, she says 'Because you live on it'

He gives her a C1 for being rude. Usually, with my kids, if they are in trouble at school, then they're in trouble at home, but I don't really feel cross with her. I just told a couple of people, one says I should go mad at the teacher, one says I should go mad at my dd

I do realise this is a bit of a non-event but we are stuck in on a snowy day and wondered your opinions!

C_Mababejive

I tend to agree with your DD.

Sambucus_Nigra

So he can be rude to her and she just has to lump it. Nice.

Depends on whether you think he is insulting you, your family, your friends etc or whether it's more important that your daughter learns to tow the line to 'authority'.

Only you can decide!

Saint_Chris

give that girl a pat on the back

RAS

I think I would be having a word with school about the teacher making derogatory comments about your area and people who live there.

As for your daughter - cheeky but bright. Just maybe needs to learn when it is appropriate.

A colleague and I once shocked someone from another department because of the way we spoke to the number 2 bod in ours. But we do not take outselves that seriously here; joshing is normal. There are other people who I would not dare speak to in the same way.

bluenoseam

It was a rude comment, however I would also be straight on the blower to the head teacher as that's NOT the remit of a teacher to comment on the neighbourhood of their pupils. She shouldn't have made the comment as it was cheeky, but by the same measure I would argue strongly that she was goaded into it (and is roughly the same sort of comment I'd have made!).

His behavior on the other hand was unprofessional & should be dealt with properly, speak to the head as an immediate course of action, he may also chose to rescind the C1. I remember being in line for a "punnie" as we called them (punishment exercise - lines) for arguing with a teacher that he was incorrect until my guidance teacher caught me after having been thrown out the class. Explained myself, stated my case that he WAS wrong - an RE teacher arguing that there were not 66 books in The Bible with a Pastor's Kid, that was just special!

harrys_nan

I think the teacher was very rude in the 1st instance, he as a "grown up" and in a professional position should know bettter than to diss somewhere that his students may or maynot live, his thought in private are different.
I agree with your daughter.
PS, I also agree that the school should be informed with regards to the teacher.

thatgirlsam

I asked her does she think I should have a word with someone at school, she said 'don't worry Mum I've sorted it'

She is fairly quiet and shy usually!

I do wonder thought wether she has just confirmed his belief that people who live on this estate are indeed rough, which would be a shame

Bad enough that she hears it from other kids, let alone adults.

Mojisola

thatgirlsam wrote: »

In class today the teacher was making derogatory comments about the estate we live on, saying how rough it is and just awful etc. He asked the class who here lives on *our estate*.

She put her hand up, he then rolled his eyes and said 'oh there's always one'

She said 'It really isn't that bad Sir'. He said, 'well where do you know that's worse than *our estate*.

It's extremely unprofessional of the teacher! It was bad enough to make the comment in general about the estate but to then ask if any of the children live there and make it personal was beyond acceptable standards.

I wouldn't be complaining about her punishment but I would be complaining about his comments.

lazer

I would go to the head teacher with this one.

It is not acceptable for a teacher to degrade the area a pupil lives in and it could in the wrng circumstances lead to the other pupils bullying the child for being from the scum estate or whatever

However it all depends on the context of the discussion - if they were learning about supply and demand and market forces and the effect on house prices it could be relevant - that there is no demand so prices are lower on your estate etc.

Your daughter was cheeky in her response - but it was a quick response -bright child you have there!

tyllwyd

If the conversation was exactly as your daughter has repeated it, then I'd say her cheekiness was in response to his own rudeness, and it was a bit rich of him to give her a punishment for it - and I would consider taking it further because he was poking fun at her just because of where she lived.

BUT before I made a fuss, I would want to be 100 per cent sure that the version of the story that I'd heard was completely accurate - there might potentially have been a bit of editing to make it sound better from her point of view when it got repeated to you.