Private Parking Tickets; An Alternative View

ManxRed

Hang on, you said 'Many' in your post.

And what you are describing doesn't sound like someone stating that they believe that ALL unprotected parking should not incur any form of financial implications.

Guys_Dad

ManxRed wrote: »

Yes, it's the 'what would you do if someone constantly parked on your drive' bit that gives it away.

Every time.

Are you pointing that remark at me? If so, then try reading (a) my first post here and (b) some of my other posts on this particular forum, all of which when it comes to PPCs and public/private car parks would completely refute that.

Only a cretin would believe me to be a PPC troll if they did that.

You might at least apologise for that slur.

ManxRed

Read post #6 again and calm down.

And remember, you have already accused 'many' on here of adopting the kind of attitude to parking on private land that I have rarely ever seen on here.

Guys_Dad

ManxRed wrote: »

Hang on, you said 'Many' in your post.

And what you are describing doesn't sound like someone stating that they believe that ALL unprotected parking should not incur any form of financial implications.

OK - let me rephrase my sentence. "Many have the concept that ALL unprotected parking (no posts or barriers erected) should not incur any form of financial implications"

"There are a significant number of members who do not support ANY use of a private parking company in any circumstances being retained to protect private residential parking spaces with any ability to levy any form of enforceable financial charge against the perpetrator. "

I reiterate that I am referring solely to private residential premises.

Guys_Dad

ManxRed wrote: »

Read post #6 again and calm down.

And remember, you have already accused 'many' on here of adopting the kind of attitude to parking on private land that I have rarely ever seen on here.

Ok - so not aimed at me? Apologies and now calm.

How does my rewritten sentence now grab you?

spacey2012

Ill point it out:
We do not like private parking firms.
they Scam the sick, the elderly and vulnerable people, sometimes out of a whole months income.
If someone is parking in your space and you don't have the common sense how to stop it.
I don't care !
The answer is never scamming people.

I live in a Town centre and nobody has ever parked on "my bit" because I have the common sense to fit two pull up posts.
I only use one space and a charity that brings disabled kids to the seaside has a spare key to the other, so they can park on level ground free of charge.

Hochiminh

Pompeyboy wrote: »

I am constantly reading on this forum about people who are calling private parking tickets a ‘scam’ and will offer you an alternative view of the situation from someone who has been forced to implement this scheme in order to protect our parking spaces.

Without identifying the specific car park, I live on a main road and pay for a private parking space behind the shopping area, outside the flat I own. This is a busy area with all the usual amenities. There are around fifteen parking spaces which are leased from the leaseholder’s management company by local businesses and residents. There are clear and frequent warning signs from the (BPA registered) parking company - 9 signs and a large sign clearly stating ‘Permit Holders Only’ however people still park there then complain when they get a ticket. When they are given tickets there is always get a picture with the car and at least one clearly visible sign in the ticket.

If I cannot park outside my flat in the space I pay nearly £1,000 a year for, I have to go into a local paid car park, park half a mile away, block someone else in or use someone else’s space.

I then read in your forums from people who are proud of the fact that they are ignoring letters from parking companies and seem to think it is amusing to inconvenience other people. I also have read statements that only 30 or 40% of these tickets are paid - well, looking at our account over the last three years (discounting the last couple of weeks as people tend not to pay straightaway) I can tell you that more than 95% of our tickets have been paid.

Because some idiots (particularly one local business) ignored these warnings and tickets, the police have got involved, with one local businessman being charged with harassment.

Whilst many of you think there are no implications from using these parking spaces, I can tell you that you are wrong and there have been many incidents involving people who have taken incorrect advice from this forum.

I agree in that case, that permit holders parking spaces should be enforced. I'd imagine the courts were more sympathetic to the PPC's in these cases too.

However I'd like to hear your opinion on charges in, for example, supermarket car parks, a very different matter I'm sure you'll agree.

ManxRed

Private car park owners ARE entitled to charges if they have incurred costs as a result of the parking. So, if someone needs to use a P&D if someone is in their space then they are perfectly entitled to seek damages to that effect (plus costs associated with chasing such damages) from the driver.

They'd probably win in court too.

Whether they use a PPC to do that or do it themselves I don't care (although I admit they would need to use an AOS member to get the DVLA details).

What we DON'T support on here is PPC's demanding amounts completely unrelated to any financial loss suffered, and misrepresenting authority to mislead people into thinking they've broken the law. Those are the people we're happy to bait, as long as it isn't detrimental to the car park owners (e.g. huge supermarkets with dozens of free spaces, etc.).

Pompeyboy

No I am not a parking company troll, I don't understand what anyone would find inconceivable about what I am saying; I am telling you why we (the people who pay £1,000 a year for a parking space) do this. As for Spacey's comment...we have found the way to stop most people using our spaces...and that is the parking tickets. When the barrier was up, we had people constantly breaking the padlocks to get in and out [for which they could have been charged with criminal damage - the area is on camera]
Apart from a couple of local business people (as I said, one of whom has been charged with harassment) most people do not park there again once they have been issued with a ticket. Often the best solution is to hit people in their pockets as I'm sure you will grudgingly acknowledge.

Guys_Dad

ManxRed wrote: »

Why not name them and include quotes to support this ridiculous assertion?

Good luck.

Guys_Dad wrote: »

Just wait a few hours and you will see them here. If not, then I might be bothered to trawl through some archives to support this.

First one - spacey2012 - see #17 above.

Awaiting others.