Flight delay and cancellation compensation, Ryanair ONLY

austin9658

Vauban wrote: »

Yes but it's better to get 100% than 70% ...

It all depends on the individual and their circumstances: NWNF isn't always the best option for people. (In my case, my claim was worth £2500 - so 30% would have been £750! In the event, I did it myself, and kept it all.)

If someone have self believe that he can win the battle then there is no need to hire NWNF lawyer, and can keep all the awarded money in the pocket. But, If someone don't have believe that he can win then, it is best for him to hire a NWNF lawyer and can save 70%.

[Deleted User]

Thanks to all for your advice. I am checking the ESCP, to make my case more consistent. I will try it myself so without a NWNF, but I need moe evidence to make my case the most consistent.

Why do I opt out to do it myself? Looking at the procedure and form A, it seems very easy. There is just a form to complete, having a NWNF would be more expensive to do it. On the other hand, doing it myself may cost 100GBP in fees, especially if I lose. Hence having all the evidence for the case is important.

I already check the weather (on ukWeatherForecast) and found out there was a weather warning for that evening (Sept 20th). Therefore when Ryanair says the delay was due to adverse weather condition makes kind of sense.

Now to further back up my claim, I would like to find out information about other flights landing within the same time either in London, or best at STD. The idea is to challenge Rynair and say that other flight had no or minor delay, so why 3 hours in our case?

I think that with this info, they will not be in a position to contest anything, and more chance will be to win my case.

Any idea where I can find a website with historical record of landed flight in London?

Thanks

111KAB

FinancialED wrote: »

Any idea where I can find a website with historical record of landed flight in London?

Thanks

flightstats.com > register for free then enter date of your flight and go from there however the information you obtain may be discounted by a judge but will allow you to make your decision whether to proceed with court action.

fifeken

FinancialED wrote: »

Now to further back up my claim, I would like to find out information about other flights landing within the same time either in London, or best at STD. The idea is to challenge Rynair and say that other flight had no or minor delay, so why 3 hours in our case?

Different aircraft may have different equipment on-board allowing them to take off or land in worse weather conditions, so this won't necessarily prove your case.

Increased ground spacing dictated by ATC would also increase delays progressively and would be classified as ECs.

Vauban

I thought this was a interesting article, re Ryanair's effort to enforce a 2 year limitation period by dint of contract. Worth watching ...

http://www.flightdelays.co.uk/blog/2014/1230/ryanair-lose-another-2-flight-delay-court-cases

Edit: A separate article on the same website further explains the contract point:

http://www.flightdelays.co.uk/blog/2014/1226/ryanair-fail-in-bid-to-keep-court-judgment-secret

I don't know whether to feel outrage or pity for Ryanair's pathetic attempt to keep their legal defeat secret ...

dxc_chappie

Vauban wrote: »

I thought this was a interesting article, re Ryanair's effort to enforce a 2 year limitation period by dint of contract. Worth watching ...

http://www.flightdelays.co.uk/blog/2014/1230/ryanair-lose-another-2-flight-delay-court-cases

Edit: A separate article on the same website further explains the contract point:

http://www.flightdelays.co.uk/blog/2014/1226/ryanair-fail-in-bid-to-keep-court-judgment-secret

I don't know whether to feel outrage or pity for Ryanair's pathetic attempt to keep their legal defeat secret ...

Interesting. So in the Banks case the Judge would have allowed the defence if the t&cs Ryanair currently use had been in place at the time Banks booked. So what about article 15 of eu261? Is this now worthless?

Dr_Watson

I don't know whether to feel outrage or pity for Ryanair's pathetic attempt to keep their legal defeat secret ...

Same Old Ryanair...shameful.

Vauban

dxc_chappie wrote: »

Interesting. So in the Banks case the Judge would have allowed the defence if the t&cs Ryanair currently use had been in place at the time Banks booked. So what about article 15 of eu261? Is this now worthless?

We're getting into bar-room legal talk. But as I understand it, the regulation has always been subject to national limitation statutes. In the UK, this is six years or what has been agreed between the two parties. When you tick the "I agree" box before buying your tickets you're signing up two a two year period, which arguably isn't a limitation of the regulation per se ...

To some extent this is all less relevant, since it's only recently I think that Ryanair and others have changed their T&Cs to make this explicit. And anyone delayed recently who waits more than two years before bringing their case really shouldn't. The six year point was important because of the legacy caused by the airlines' stays (post-Sturgeon).

It is relatively simple really: if you are delayed and think you have a claim, lodge a legal claim within two years of the flight - because even if it is subsequently stayed, you've protected your position.

I find Ryanair's efforts to hide its legal defeat infinitely more interesting: it shows how running scared they are.

chrisjeffries

Hi All,

I've searched this forum and the main flight delay forum but can't find any reference to this.

We are currently in the process of claiming compensation from Ryanair for a flight delay of over 3 hours last year. Ryanair have provided the usual "beyond our control" response. We have written to the the CAA and they have ruled in our favour. We are now looking to being court proceedings through ESCP, however, we have had our paperwork rejected by the court, as we need to include form N510 - Service out of the Jurisdiction.

Has anybody filled one of these in for a claim against Ryanair? There are 9 options and we are unsure which is the appropriate one?

Thanks,

Dr_Watson

chrisjeffries wrote: »

Hi All,

I've searched this forum and the main flight delay forum but can't find any reference to this.

We are currently in the process of claiming compensation from Ryanair for a flight delay of over 3 hours last year. Ryanair have provided the usual "beyond our control" response. We have written to the the CAA and they have ruled in our favour. We are now looking to being court proceedings through ESCP, however, we have had our paperwork rejected by the court, as we need to include form N510 - Service out of the Jurisdiction.

Has anybody filled one of these in for a claim against Ryanair? There are 9 options and we are unsure which is the appropriate one?

Thanks,

Chris,
This is total rubbish from the courts, and you have hit your first hurdle in negotiating the ESCP process, UK courts are generally not up to speed with it.
Go to my post 569 for a detailed guide on taking RA to court using the ESCP.

If you still need a court where they are familiar with the ESCP, then use The Combined Sheffield Court Centre (Google them). They dealt with my case and at least one other forum user using ESCP (albeit after a bit of guidance (the court that is)).
Any more probs, post back on here and we'll deal with it.
Good luck and keep going- your journey has just begun!!!