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Arrrggh Amazon using First Class Post for Prime Deliveries
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I don't think tracked costs much more than standard. Most of the processes that have been mentioned e.g entering in the system will be done via an automatic scan. There will be very few manual processes involved.
I would be surprised if the additional price between normal first class mail and tracked services actually reflected the cost difference.
I would guess the profit margins for next day tracked service are alot higher than on standard first class mail (I know the company I work for makes a lot out of express delivery).This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
I love the way you just airily dismiss the cost of various operations to the RM in a doomed attempt to continue to make you absurd case.
If the special delivery service really cost the RM the same as 1st class, then why would they not give everyone that service as the default.
You seem to be living in some sort of cloud cuckoo land where RM can provide the SD service for the same cost as 1st.
Have you found yourself a new emoticon to play with? I've not seen that one before.
I would question the policy of this site which says you should be nice to each other, and then makes an emoticon available which implies the person you are quoting is mental!:)This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
I love the way you just airily dismiss the cost of various operations to the RM in a doomed attempt to continue to make you absurd case.
If the special delivery service really cost the RM the same as 1st class, then why would they not give everyone that service as the default.
You seem to be living in some sort of cloud cuckoo land where RM can provide the SD service for the same cost as 1st.
Special Delivery is not the same as Tracked, now whose trying to find vague justification for their case.
Special Delivery costs Royal Mail more as the compensation structure is far greater than a 1st class item.
The cost of delivering a tracked delivery is the same as a 1st class item. What costs to Royal Mail are different, please, enlighten me...0 -
No, I am not confused, I don't think you've read the whole thread properly.
We are talking about the guaranteed next day delivery service.
That is the special delivery and that is tracked.
visidigi is trying to make out that SD doesn't cost RM any more to provide than 1st class post.
No I am not, Tracked is NOT a special delivery, you are confusing two very different services as the basis for your argument, which is fundamentally flawed.0 -
Have you found yourself a new emoticon to play with? I've not seen that one before.
I would question the policy of this site which says you should be nice to each other, and then makes an emoticon available which implies the person you are quoting is mental!:)
The emoticon is from a different site, its Azari trying to be clever.
The problem is, he isn't, he's wrong.
RM Tracked is 1st class with a delivery scan.
As per my question before:
What difference does a tracked package have over a package that is sent standard first class that does not fit through a letter box?
The answer is, nothing, they both go to the pickup location to be picked up at a later date if you are not in. The cost to the RM is EXACTLY the same.0 -
separate in what way?
Well it's taken to the DO in separate bags with purple tags and isn't tipped like the 1st/2nd/Airmail post is (the Airmail should be kept seprate as well as I'm getting a discount for sorting it but it all gets tipped together regardless) and goes off to DO 2 separately, is scanned here for the first time, then goes on to Gatwick.
Considering it has to be scanned 4/5 times I don't see how they could do this without keeping it separate?Read the whole sentence.
The item still ends up back in the sorting office for distribution. Scanning an envelope costs very little, the employee is still employed for the day, whether they sit outside the sorting office smoking fags like they do next to my office or if they are driving a van scanning packages...
I read the whole sentence, you didn't read mine, they scan it at every depot it passes through. This does not happen with untracked mail.
Although you are right it doesn't take long to scan "an envelope" scanning 100,000 parcels a total of half a million times costs time which costs wages which RM pay for, or more accurately the sender pays for as part of the cost of the service.
If RM Tracked didn't cost more to process, then everything could be sent tracked at the same costs people currently pay.
If you don't think RM Track costs more to process, phone sales, say you are interested in the service and ask them why it costs more.In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces0 -
the_lunatic_is_in_my_head wrote: »Well it's taken to the DO in separate bags with purple tags and isn't tipped like the 1st/2nd/Airmail post is (the Airmail should be kept seprate as well as I'm getting a discount for sorting it but it all gets tipped together regardless) and goes off to DO 2 separately, is scanned here for the first time, then goes on to Gatwick.
Considering it has to be scanned 4/5 times I don't see how they could do this without keeping it separate?
So how do you explain the hundreds that pass through DOs every day mixed in with the normal packets?0 -
Just to be clear here, there is Special Delivery and RM Tracked, they are different services but both are Tracked. Tracked is designed to offer a similar but more cost effective service to Special.
The added advantage is Tracked doesn't require a signature (unless you pay an extra few pence for one) can have a nominated safe place printed on the label and can have email or text updates sent to the receiver letting them know it's out for delivery and again if delivery failed and the item was returned to the DO.In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces0 -
So how do you explain the hundreds that pass through DOs every day mixed in with the normal packets?
Don't ask me. If they aren't keeping it separate and are sorting at each point to scan this would seem somewhat inefficient.
Again you assume we all know the inner workings of RM, all I know is what sales told me and to a certain extent what happens to my post from my end up to Gatwick.In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces0 -
the_lunatic_is_in_my_head wrote: »Don't ask me. If they aren't keeping it separate and are sorting at each point to scan this would seem somewhat inefficient.
Again you assume we all know the inner workings of RM, all I know is what sales told me and to a certain extent what happens to my post from my end up to Gatwick.
yes but you made a statement they are kept separate.
that isnt the case
SDs are kept separate
Tracked are handled different at certain points and ways
however they are out on the floor like the rest of the mail0
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