right means right........right?

Strider590

Happychappy wrote: »

Op is correct, there are four lanes on the roundabout, lanes one and two are marked M1 which is the second exit, lanes three and four are marked B600 which is at about three o'clock on the roundabout, obviously lanes one and two are the busiest, so the BMW owners club use lane three and cut across into two, have a look at Google Earth it shows the setup better than explaining.

Are you counting it as lanes 321 instead of 123?

andy213

Happychappy wrote: »

Op is correct, there are four lanes on the roundabout, lanes one and two are marked M1 which is the second exit, lanes three and four are marked B600 which is at about three o'clock on the roundabout, obviously lanes one and two are the busiest, so the BMW owners club use lane three and cut across into two, have a look at Google Earth it shows the setup better than explaining.

exactly - the lane is signed exclusive right, the guys who use it have no intention of turning right...... or waiting their turn

by cutting into the lane during roundabout, it is them risk taking not me, I was there all along, I was being honest all along. They're taking risks to push in because the lane they are is not correct and they knew this from the offset.

I can only assume the people giving me stick on here are one in the same as those who believe that by being dishonest and yes, queue jumping, they have the right to a shorter trip to work than the rest of us!

it is just not on! nor are the defenders of it- more often than not its simply a false sense of entitlement

Strider590

andy213 wrote: »

it is just not on! nor are the defenders of it

Neither is vigilantism......

I have no bigger problem than with those who insist on enforcing the "MY WAY CODE".

Vigilantism should be an instant ban, it kills hundreds of people every single year on UK roads.... Not always car drivers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPXpLRNEvbM

Because someone didn't like a "queue jumper", that cyclist could have been killed!

andy213

so strider from the morality of your long post you are doing the world a favour by skipping a long queue so you can get to where you are going faster, by using the wrong lane on purpose?

i'd call that plain cheating with a massive dose of self interest rather than the benevolent way you describe it!

neilmcl

There no such thing as a "wrong lane", if the driver is on the right-hand lane and chooses to move into the left-hand lane, then so long as it's legal and safe to do so there's no problem. What if they go right round the island and then take the M1 exit, is that "wrong" also?

Oh, and for the record, the lane is not "signed exclusive right", it has no direction arrows whatsoever.

jb66

I like playing this game, I leave a gap so it looks like the person in the wrong lane can skip infront of me, then I speed up so he is stranded in the wrong lane, then he slows to try and go behind me but i slow right down. your the winner if the person in the wrong lane has to go the way the lane says he should

FatCalico

neilmcl wrote: »

Oh, and for the record, the lane is not "signed exclusive right", it has no direction arrows whatsoever.

As another regular user of that roundabout I have to disagree. Two lanes are clearly marked for the M1 - the other two lanes are clearly marked for right turners onto the quieter less busy roads (therefore less traffic in the two right hand lanes and a paradise for queue jumpers!)

Strider590 - are you the cyclist in that video? OK the driver should have checked her left hand mirrors, but she was clearly distracted by the fact that she was more or less being forced off the road by (to quote the OP here) a banker with a w who made assumptions he had more of a right to the road than anybody else - and as a slower moving vehicle the cyclist should have seen the situation developing in plenty of time to be able to move out of the way instead of carrying on regardless.

neilmcl

FatCalico wrote: »

As another regular user of that roundabout I have to disagree. Two lanes are clearly marked for the M1 - the other two lanes are clearly marked for right turners onto the quieter less busy roads (therefore less traffic in the two right hand lanes and a paradise for queue jumpers!).

No, all the lanes have markings showing the destinations should you choose stay in a particular lane. The two inside lanes are marked M1 and the one (not two) outside lane indicates that the destination is the B600/A611. What there isn't are any signs or markings stating ahead only or right turn only. There is nothing to prevent a driver switching lanes if its is legal and safe to do so. Look at the google maps link I posted above and street view or satellite it, you'll see for yourself.

If you look further up wth the junction with the M1, you can see that this island is different and (although a bit out of date now) the lanes there do have directional arrows marked which would prohibit such action but then again there's nothing to prevent you going right round the roundabout and then filter into the left hand lanes.

FatCalico

I think the point the OP is trying to make (and I have witnessed) is that many drivers try to switch lanes when it is NOT safe to do so. They hold up the traffic behind them whilst trying to bully their way in front of people who were in the right lane all along. The car in the correct lane to start with either has to unwillingly let the !!!!!! in or risk a scrape.
Any cars behind the car in the WRONG lane trying to push in have to brake unnecessarily.

It annoys me as much as lorries overtaking each other at 50mph on a dual carriageway...... :mad:

Alexwild

I can fully understand your frustration, there's nothing I hate more than being in a queue of traffic and watching someone in an empty lane that's marked for a different road sail past knowing they're going to cut across at the last moment. As a word of caution, however, these drivers will often see what they think is a gap and come across regardless. If you then block them off and they hit you, you might find your insurance companies go 50/50 on any damage and you'll end up paying your excess and losing your no claims discount. Sometimes you just have to accept that life has it w shaped anchors who're not worth the hassle.