Contract Ended - Still 30days notice

Kernel_Sanders

d123 wrote: »

Silly?

I think it's more silly to expect people to have to remember to the day their contract ends, miss by a day and you are disconnected. Would this apply to BT, virgin, Sky, British Gas, nPower etc? They all have minimum term contracts which convert to 30 day rolling service.

Do you honestly know the time and day your contract was activated?

What do you think happens when your insurance or TV Licence or VED disc expires? You are sent something commonly known as a reminder. If you fail to act, then the entitlement expires.

diamonds

Guys_Dad wrote: »

I have noticed over a few of your posts that you seem to believe that t&c are irrelevant and can be ignored or cherry-picked.

Any half-sensible MSE members know that to be totally without foundation and, therefore, will disregard any "advice" you may offer till you return to planet earth as it exists in 2012, not as you might fantasise how it would be if it was planet diamonds.

Go study LAW, the facts people dont get education in it as standard is why we are fooled by T&C and scared to challange them in small claims court ourselves, I apologise I am a pro-active person and studied law, I bettered myself of my own accord and wholelly betteered my life in doing both, if that offends anyone, its not the issue I put on people its the issue/s they have with themselves.

diamonds

macman wrote: »

No, because even after your minimum term ends, you are still in contract, so the T&C's still apply, including the requirement to give 30 days notice.

By T&C not law, by law the minimum term is served - it would be reasonable to give 30 days notice to collect equipment etc, not in a mobile phone contract senario, all they have to do is hit "entrer" on a keyboard when you call to disconnect, to try and enforce 30 days on that as a t&c is wholelly unreasonable to financal gain, and thus as the minimum term is served is a Unfair Contract term.

prowla

DUTR wrote: »

Because the what you deem as a contract is a minimum term commitment, so yes 30 days notice is required.

I think that is the plainest explanation you will get!

d123

Kernel_Sanders wrote: »

What do you think happens when your insurance or TV Licence or VED disc expires? You are sent something commonly known as a reminder. If you fail to act, then the entitlement expires.

Actually my TV Licence auto renews, no reminder arrives .

And if you feel the way forward is to send out reminders, who do you think will pay for the service? The networks would need to install a system, have people to manage to system, costs in running the system and have the spectre of complaints still arriving when Bob the Builder loses his number he runs his business with when RM loses the reminder and the blame then ends up with the network for failing to remind him.

Far easier for the networks to pretend all their contract customers are actually adults, and don't require a nanny to run around after them and run their life for them.

Guys_Dad

diamonds wrote: »

Go study LAW, :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: the facts people dont get education in it as standard is why we are fooled by T&C and scared to challange them in small claims court ourselves, I apologise I am a pro-active person and studied law, I bettered myself of my own accord and wholelly betteered my life in doing both, if that offends anyone, its not the issue I put on people its the issue/s they have with themselves.

If you studied law, then I am afraid you didn't do it for very long or didn't learn much !

What you are disputing is page 1 stuff in contract law and you are just so wrong.

It's not that I don't agree with some of your aspirations, but it just isn't how things work and you need to draw a distinction between what is the legal position and what you would like it to be.

diamonds

grumbler wrote: »

Well, it is worth saying that during the minimum term this requirement is pretty much irrelevant, so it exists only for the cases when the termination date falls outside of the minimum term.

UNFAIR CONTRACT TERM benefit of financial gain to only one party of the contract & outside the minimum term

diamonds

Guys_Dad wrote: »

If you studied law, then I am afraid you didn't do it for very long or didn't learn much !

What you are disputing is page 1 stuff in contract law and you are just so wrong.

It's not that I don't agree with some of your aspirations, but it just isn't how things work and you need to draw a distinction between what is the legal position and what you would like it to be.

The legal position is 30 days is not needed to collect anything onsite or return from customer, 30 days action to hit "enter"on a keyboard on a call to a customer service member to cancel a sim (for it to be automatically done 30 days later by the computer from that call) where the applied service has served its full minimum term whilst then continuing to charge service outside that minimum period with a 30 cancellation period, both are unfair terms to the benefit of one party only outside FULL completion of the agreed minimum T&C period.

It's call extortion under law when you remove the "T&C" reference. You are forcing payment for a unwanted service when the minimum period is complete, and no further physical action is need by either party from the date of call to customer service of disconnection requirement until 30 days later when disconnection automatically happens by computer, the computer software is programmed for xx days or immediate, your network stores 30 days later, hits "enter" and all is done.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/extort

Guys_Dad

Your interpretation of contract law has a relationship to the actual law as "1066 and all that" has to history, with the difference that it is at least in readable English.

Please stop trying to advise MSE members on matters outside your skill set.

diamonds

Is that the best answer you have to "extortion", lol, well thankfully I have not only life skills but professionalism to question a contractual term & that specific T&C amounts to extortion.

What have you brought to the table ? repeated sarcastic comments...frankly that skillset of yours does NOT win court cases, good day to you.