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leveller2911

mazza111 wrote: »

I disagree completely. To be saying I have munchausens because I try to get help for my daughter? This isn't hatred to you? Don't get me wrong, it gave me a laugh, but the bile that's spewed out is laced with hatred.



So from one post you were laughing and feeling hurt. This is the ether of the web, context of posts are not always clear, but I'm genuinely confused how you can have two completely differing emotions from the same post.

Maybe we should have a seperate smiley for tongue in cheek posts....:D

looking4luck

princessdon wrote: »

To Mazza (my quote never worked)

I also can't beleive how people churn out personal attacks, the word troll and bully when the way they have just spoken to a poster was nothing short of full scale rudeness.

In short some debate (and see the merit of differing opinions) and others play victim and attack if the see a poster with a differing opinion. Life would be so dull if everyone thought the same

To be fair you can't see most of the post made by that forum user as they were removed by the thread, just as you can't see some of my posts as again they were removed.

mazza111

krisskross wrote: »

It wasn't hatred at all. Surely even you can see that at least on a lot of these threads you go on and on about your daughter's ailments and her problems appear to be the focus of your life, even to the extent of going to the doctor with a supposedly independent adult. For instance I believe you have a school age son, you never mention him. The only reason I know is because you said you moved when your daughter left to a smaller house.

I do understand your wanting to help her. I want to help my husband but I don't give chapter and verse of all his appointments, illnesses, drug therapies etc. I like to not think about it if i can. I certainly wouldn't discuss such personal matters as my daughters sex life and contraception on an internet forum.

Correction, my children are my life, not my daughter's condition. Yes there is a reason I go to the doctor with her too, after a certain doctor in the surgery said she should only be taking paracetamol for a spiral fracture of the fibula, disputed that the makers had stopped making her creams, and told her to go away. Which, in all fairness for someone suffering from depression is rather a kick in the teeth. She now fears going to the doctor and gets all frustrated when speaking to them. Me going with her and sitting with her allows her the confidence to speak for herself, and I will continue to do so as long as she needs me.I always give her the option of whether she'd like me to go in with her or not, one of these days she'll say not. Remember I have to drive her to these appointments anyway. And trust me, I don't have time to post all her appointments. I'd be here all day and into the middle of the night :rotfl:

My daughter doesn't have a sex life btw, that was a joke, sorry if you missed the humour in it, but when she's got so little to laugh about in life we like to see the humour in it. The contraception is a form of hormone therapy. That we were wondering if should be changed because of a paper written by Professor Bird who was a leading man in the field of HMS/EDS.


It's like going into her flat and finding her on her knees leaning over the sofa trying to get up, I'll joke and tell her she looks like a cow hanging over a dyke rather than focus on the downside. Just as she laughed at me when I fell getting out the bath and ended up needing another bath as i managed to pull a shelf of lotions and potions over me :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Bless her, she tried to help, but like me all she could do was laugh despite my pain and of course I couldn't move for laughing. You see, we do have good times despite the pain.


Why would I speak about my son on a benefit forum? He doesn't claim benefits? He has no health problems. Actually if you dig back far enough you may find me posting about him being knocked down last year? Although he's very good at taking her dinner down when he's going out with friends and bringing the plates back to save me going out. So if I have anything to say for my son it will be praise, although he could tidy his room more often.


Leveller it wasn't tongue in cheeky, it was nasty! As I said, I'm thick skinned so it bothered me less than other people.

Amputees working is marvelous, you won't get me criticising that. Anyone working through a disability is absolutely brilliant. That doesn't however mean that everyone can. There are days my dd can't get herself out of bed. Never mind hold down a job. You were lucky that you had an understanding employer, some are not so lucky. I still hope and prey that one day we will both get back to work, maybe when the medication is sorted out we both can. I don't think people take into account the way that certain medications can leave you. I've often to go back to bed, because of the fatigue, which I believe is caused by the medication. And we've both been in the position where we've lost our jobs because of our illnesses

mumblub

Why can,t people on this site stop judging each other at the end of the day the gov controls us all..example people on jsa get £10.18p near enuff a day to live on that works out if your lucky to 2hrs pay..then we have workers at min wage ..again they dont get paid enuff (sorry i know it,s spelt enough just been lazy) ..all in all not ONE person pays for the WHOLE NATION it is joint...SOME PEOPLE need to stop acting like "oh i pay your wages because i pay tax..others need to stop saying your on benefits ..its my money that pays you...at the end of the day we all have someone in our family or extended family that is getting benefits of some kind..should that be ..cb..ctc..jsa..wtc..all in all its a benefit which EVERYONE pays taxes on when they spend that money in a shop..so before anyone wants to judge/slam/look down on anyone....btw my ex is a bin man he has paid cs forchis children for years..some people still think its ok to shout after him..".YOU" EMPTY MY BIN PROPERLY JUST REMEMBER I PAY YOUR WAGES..as i say people need to stop judging each other....sorry rant over just to say we are all as good as each other imo

princessdon

mumblub wrote: »

Why can,t people on this site stop judging each other at the end of the day the gov controls us all..example people on jsa get £10.18p near enuff a day to live on that works out if your lucky to 2hrs pay..then we have workers at min wage ..again they dont get paid enuff (sorry i know it,s spelt enough just been lazy) ..all in all not ONE person pays for the WHOLE NATION it is joint...SOME PEOPLE need to stop acting like "oh i pay your wages because i pay tax..others need to stop saying your on benefits ..its my money that pays you...at the end of the day we all have someone in our family or extended family that is getting benefits of some kind..should that be ..cb..ctc..jsa..wtc..all in all its a benefit which EVERYONE pays taxes on when they spend that money in a shop..so before anyone wants to judge/slam/look down on anyone....btw my ex is a bin man he has paid cs forchis children for years..some people still think its ok to shout after him..".YOU" EMPTY MY BIN PROPERLY JUST REMEMBER I PAY YOUR WAGES..as i say people need to stop judging each other....sorry rant over just to say we are all as good as each other imo

Sentiment appreciated, however, people on JSA don't always get £10 a day (if you add other benefits to those who live independently), None of my family or extended family (bar one who is the type that gives people a bad name and has never and will never work through choice) have ever claimed means tested benefits - nor any friend either. - Note means tested.

I agree with the bin man comment - any person who works hard and provides for his family is top of the tree for me.

It's easy for people on benefits to say I only get £71 pw - when some will get far more (that is why returning to work is hard as after paying rent they are not much better off), or I only get NMW - but it is topped up with benefits. I have no problem topping up "reasonably" with Tax Credits. Eg if someone works full time and their partner have little ones, but if they have healthy teenagers and only 1 parent works 24 hours and the other doesn't work, to me this is a lifestyle choice and I don't have the same opinion as the first scenario.

mazza111

We're on the same page PD. And I agree with both what you and mumblub have said. There are always going to be the type to be those type of people who are sitting on benefits quite happily.

I'll admit when I finished up work, I wasn't that much worse off, probably cos I still have the little one at home and CTC tops things up a bit, but I was definitely better off in work. I do believe however there does need to be a bigger gap between working and none working as there's no incentive there for these people to go out and work. But for single people who don't have kids, things can be pretty tough.

krisskross

mazza111 wrote: »

My daughter doesn't have a sex life btw, that was a joke, sorry if you missed the humour in it, but when she's got so little to laugh about in life we like to see the humour in it. The contraception is a form of hormone therapy. That we were wondering if should be changed because of a paper written by Professor Bird who was a leading man in the field of HMS/EDS.

Contraception is exactly what it says, drug/s to prevent conception, which would indicate someone sexually active.

Hormone therapy is entirely different.

My husband has hormone therapy, we don't tend to call it contraception.

You shouldn't change your mind on what you have previously posted just so it looks better.

I still think it is rather bad form to be discussing her sex life.

Muttleythefrog

krisskross wrote: »

Contraception is exactly what it says, drug/s to prevent conception, which would indicate someone sexually active.

Hormone therapy is entirely different.

My husband has hormone therapy, we don't tend to call it contraception.

You shouldn't change your mind on what you have previously posted just so it looks better.

I still think it is rather bad form to be discussing her sex life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npiBotj2FLQ

krisskross

Muttleythefrog wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npiBotj2FLQ

I agree but you wouldn't call it contraception if that is not the reason you are using it. You would call it hormone therapy.

I have personal experience of these type of drugs and never considered it's use to be as a contraceptive, even though that may well have been a side effect, and would never have described it as such.

Do mothers of 13 year olds given drugs to relieve painful menstruation say their daughter is on The Pill? I doubt it. Although I expect they say she has something to relieve her symptoms.

princessdon

krisskross wrote: »

I agree but you wouldn't call it contraception if that is not the reason you are using it. You would call it hormone therapy.

I have personal experience of these type of drugs and never considered it's use to be as a contraceptive, even though that may well have been a side effect, and would never have described it as such.

Do mothers of 13 year olds given drugs to relieve painful menstruation say their daughter is on The Pill? I doubt it. Although I expect they say she has something to relieve her symptoms.

No I would absolutely make the distinction both to anyone and them!

Just to add (and this could be me barking up the wrong tree) that the poster feels guilty with regards to her daughter. It is genetic and she passed on that gene. As a parent who has a faulty gene and passed this on (I have a child who is currently well following a transplant, and one who sadly didn't make it), the guilt you feel is enormous.

I remember the scan for my son - they said they couldn't tell the gender and I refused to leave until they did as the gene is less prevelant in males and I breathed a huge sigh of relief.

I know I talk more about my daughter at work than my other children, but I am so immensely proud of what she has overcame.