MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

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topaziem wrote: »

Since when did a candidate last stand for parliament that had lived his life in the area that he was representing?

Our last one lived in the same street as me and has children who have gone to local schools. The present one lives about eight miles away.

Dunroamin

krisskross wrote: »

Our GP practice is quite a big one. My husband seldom makes a 'future' appointment which would allow him to see the doctor of his choice. Instead he usually sees whoever is doing the emergency appointments. Think in a year he has only seen the same doctor twice so we always have to bring whoever he is seeing up to speed with his illnesses and current treatments. Only takes a minute or so, certainly quicker than the doctor trawling through the notes on the computer. The days of the friendly family GP who delivered you and knows all your medical history are long gone

We do the same and I think that would apply to anyone who was really ill. If someone can wait for a fortnight to see a specific doctor, there can't be that much wrong with them.

LunaLady

Dunroamin wrote: »

We do the same and I think that would apply to anyone who was really ill. If someone can wait for a fortnight to see a specific doctor, there can't be that much wrong with them.

Maybe for those with physical disabilities.

In our case we have to see the same GP because my DS reacts badly to anyone else. We are lucky that we are attached to a very small surgery so we can normally get seen the same day if DS has anything physical. With regards to his other appointments we attend 3 other hospitals/large surgeries.

Its also good if we see the same GP because it saves all the back story, which can take a long time.

mazza111

Dunroamin wrote: »

We do the same and I think that would apply to anyone who was really ill. If someone can wait for a fortnight to see a specific doctor, there can't be that much wrong with them.

Routine appointments if you can wait for them IMO are better being seen by the same doctor if you can. You could be seeing a GP for a med review, no urgency, but better to see a GP who understands your condition than going to see one who's clueless. OK maybe not clueless but .... I can't find the right word. EDS is pretty rare, and many GPs really don't know enough about it. Actually, judging by the FB groups on it, I don't know if it's as rare as they say or just under diagnosed.

It's like my dd refuses to go near one doctor because of her previous experience with him and all because of a tube of psoriasis cream, they had stopped making it, so she went to get her script replaced with something else, he didn't believe they had stopped making it. Told her to go to another pharmacy, she told him she had been to every pharmacy in town (this was when she was in cast). He basically called her a liar, until he phoned the pharmacy. He then refused to give her anything and told her to wait until she seen the dermatologist (3+ months wait), refused to give her any painkillers for her leg, gave her anti inflammatories (which the next doc took her straight off because they inhibit bone growth in long term cases). She was in the surgery with him for about 20 minutes arguing with him about the cream and came out in tears. Hence why she won't go on her own now, her MH problems along with the physical problems just aren't understood by this one doctor who didn't like to be proved wrong. So she'd rather eat dirt than see him again. And his attitude has knocked her back so far in respect to talking to doctors. If her fit note is due, we always try to see someone else, even if that means booking a fortnight in advance. Thanks for that reminder btw Because of her psoriasis being untreated for so long, she ended up in hospital for a fortnight to get it under control.

For emergencies - Yes any doctor would do, but if we called up and got him, I think she'd either refuse to go or go to the out of hours surgery, we've been lucky and never got an appt with him any time since.


I don't actually think 2 weeks is too long to wait for non urgent appointments if it's with a doctor of your choice. Some doctors you can talk to about things, others you can't.

Morlock

Some more ideas of how to cut the welfare bill:

"Retired people should be encouraged to do community work such as caring for the "very old" or face losing some of their pension, a peer has suggested. Lord Bichard, a former benefits chief, said "imaginative" ideas were needed to meet the cost of an ageing society.

And although such a move might be controversial, it would stop older people being a "burden on the state"."

""We are now prepared to say to people who are not looking for work, if you don't look for work you don't get benefits, so if you are old and you are not contributing in some way or another maybe there is some penalty attached to that.""

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20044862

Nobody should be complacent about how far the cuts will go.

"New official figures from the Office for National statistics (ONS) shows that pensioners’ incomes increased by 2.5 times in real terms between 1977 and 2011, outstripping the performance of the wider economy."

"Pensioners worked during periods of very high employment and saw almost uninterrupted growth in house prices and were able to take advantage of generous pension schemes, including final salary pension schemes that are not open to workers now.

People who have recently retired are better off than the generation before and likely to be a lot better off than future generations of retired people."

http://www.myfinances.co.uk/pensions/2012/10/25/ons-reveals-today-s-pensioners-better-off-than-ever-before

Mutterings in the press, and official statistics shortly after, sound familiar? OAPs are the next 'benefit scroungers' to be demonised.

krisskross

topaziem wrote: »

Well they are aren't they? They have certainly taken more out and will continue to do so than they have put in!

Not all of us. i was paying £12K plus a year in tax and NI for at least the 5 years prior to my retirement, plus whatever I contributed in the other 35 years I was working. Net gain after tax state benefit is about £2K a year. I have never claimed any benefit apart from Family Allowance so reckon I might have a few years in hand on my pension so to speak.

mazza111

Think topaziem has already been removed.

Whoever thinks some of these ideas up is bonkers!!!!

Can you just see wee granny smith out picking up litter for her pension....

System

mazza111 wrote: »

Think topaziem has already been removed.

Whoever thinks some of these ideas up is bonkers!!!!

Can you just see wee granny smith out picking up litter for her pension....

Why can they not perma ban him? Other forums manage it.. :mad:

mazza111

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

Why can they not perma ban him? Other forums manage it.. :mad:

depends on the system used, if he's got a dynamic IP then it can be quite difficult unless they take out a whole submask. Sorry, the inner geek coming out. It's too easy to set up a new email address to get back.

I really don't know what method these forums and/or the others use. We used banning by ip address for our gaming forums. But I've not been a geek for a few years, things may have changed

flexrider

zoominatorone wrote: »

Lots of people in this country spend decades on the sick. They should get looked at, as well as the ones spewing pit 12 children who never work a day in their life either.

Cant tell what news outlet and paper you read :T

Fact is some of the comments think benefits are the problem but its only 4% of the problem yet politicians spend more on our taxes as expenses then benefits on a whole


So to the posters, define benefit. Scroungers again please evaluate when we have mps claiming expenses immigration at the higest level and a trillion deficit to tackle with a millionaire club of out of touch club running the country