MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

mazza111

MUMZ2BEE wrote: »

No I am not racist get that right!!

Sorry mumz, but that post where you stated you were WHITE BRITISH did come across as a white supremacy thing. What does it matter what colour you are?

Dunroamin, good point, but in that way don't we inherit our parents' beliefs and views on politics that way? My kids have had no interest whatsoever in current affairs, though the little one has studied some politics in school. I learned about it in school too, although it was pretty limited too.

krisskross

Dunroamin wrote: »

Isn't it mainly a parents' role to encourage their children to take an interest in current affairs and politics?

Only one of our four children votes the same way as us.

I hope we have brought them up to be independent thinkers.

I get quite cross when people think every aspect of their children's education and welfare is the school's responsibility. From sex education, financial planning, now political affairs right through to feeding them!

Very easy to hive off parental responsibility.

krisskross

mazza111 wrote: »

No need to quote me, I've said I find it wrong too. And it is definitely open to abuse.

I could have claimed it 7 years ago before my dad died but didn't. I could claim it for my mum now, but I don't (don't quite make up the hours, but could still claim it and diddle them), the one that I spend more doing for is my dd, who I can't claim for, not that I would, but because she only gets LRC...I can't anyhoo, even though, I'm sure if I added it up, it would add to more than the required hours.

Think this is something they should be looking into instead of putting genuinely sick people off benefits and forcing them onto job seekers.

The thing that's worrying me is if my health gets much worse, who's going to do for my dd then. The other day my own knee went out and didn't want to go back in, so had to get take away ordered and her brother to help her into bed etc.

But if you are caring for family members for all these hours in addition to your own home and child it does make one wonder why you think you are too sick to work?

seven-day-weekend

mazza111 wrote: »

Sorry mumz, but that post where you stated you were WHITE BRITISH did come across as a white supremacy thing. What does it matter what colour you are?

Dunroamin, good point, but in that way don't we inherit our parents' beliefs and views on politics that way? My kids have had no interest whatsoever in current affairs, though the little one has studied some politics in school. I learned about it in school too, although it was pretty limited too.

Not necessarily. I was a Socialist in my teenage years and as a young adult because my parents and other family were, but as I have got older I no longer subscribe to those beliefs and would no longer describe myself as a Socialist. But they did make me aware that there were important issues that needed to be addressed and that one of the ways to do it was through the ballot box. I have always voted ever since I was old enough to do so and consider it my duty.

mazza111

krisskross wrote: »

But if you are caring for family members for all these hours in addition to your own home and child it does make one wonder why you think you are too sick to work?

Not necessarily, but I thought you would pick up on that. Much of the time I kill 2 birds with the one stone. Showering, 3 times a week, one goes in after the other. Shopping, done together. Meals, cooked together. The hospital appointments I can't do together, but most of the time for those I'm just a driver, I sit on my mother's bed when she's in the shower and make up her medication for the week, then do my dd's. And doing it all leaves me knackered as I've previously stated. As for housework? What's that? I get totally ashamed of my house at times because I don't have the time nor the energy to do it. It's my son I feel sorry for in all this, especially when he's trying to talk to me and I'm so zoned out he has to repeat himself.

And just for the record, it was the DWP that said I was too sick to work when I turned up for my sign on date and they could see I was in no way fit to work. For the millionth time, I'm in the WRAG. Which means I may get back to work or may be able for some sort of Work Activity. It's pretty hard to work with one functioning arm and two knackered knees.


7DW - I have to admit, I followed in my mother's footsteps when it comes to politics, although I've educated myself in that matter. In 50 years of marriage, it's one of the few things my parents disagreed on.

But I still believe it should be taught more in schools.

krisskross

topaziem wrote: »

Many people of all ages don't vote. Why should they - nothing ever changes.

My parents have not voted for the past 40 odd years and in the 13 years since I turned 18, I have never voted.

What will happen will happen - much the same as the Welfare Reform Bill - the House of Lords wanted it changed - the Commons said no way - it's our way or no way!!

Politicians are all the same, the only difference is some are less able than the rest - but basically they are a load of lying scumbags.

Does make me wonder why people died on behalf of those who can't be bothered to vote yet still complain about the Government they get.

LunaLady

krisskross wrote: »

Does make me wonder why people died on behalf of those who can't be bothered to vote yet still complain about the Government they get.

They died for your right to choose.

LunaLady

topaziem wrote: »

Did you not read what my views on politics and politicians are??



The question that i would pose to you then is, if all politicians are the same with only their own self interests in mind - who should I vote for??

Why not vote on a local level, for the MP you think may represent you and your area best?

krisskross

LunaLady wrote: »

They died for your right to choose.

Of course they didn't. There was no choice to be made because there was no democratic vote for many prior to campaigners forcing the issue.

Yes today most citizens over the age of 18 have the right to vote. It was a hard won privilege, not to be tossed away lightly.

MissMoneypenny

FBaby wrote: »

Ok you're right, it was indeed silly of me to assume that mumz2bee was only prejudiced against illegal immigrants

Even both main policital parties have said the UK has too many immigrants and there have been recent debates in parliament on this too. It is not racist to say this as they haven't singled out a race; merely pointed out the high numbers of immigrants the UK (in particular England) has, which is a strain on our roads, jobs, services, welfare etc. Welfare and immigration cuts have been running side by side as Cameron called them "two sides of the same coin".

I can see why you arrived in England: for the betterment of your life: and if I had been in your shoes I would have done the same thing when the EU allowed free movement. However people should be aware what a racist comment actually is and also be aware that we have libel and slander laws.