MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

krisskross

topaziem wrote: »

And clearly racist!

Isn't that the thing!

I am often accused of being a benefit basher but infinitely prefer that to being thought racist.

mazza111

krisskross wrote: »

Was the intention of the drug for contraception in an 8 year old?

Did you really think that your 8 year old was being given medication for contraceptive purposes?


Another drug used for more than 1 problem is propanolol. This is a beta blocker and originally and is still used to control high blood pressure. I am prescribed this drug but I don't have high blood pressure. I have it to help with the panic attacks I get as the result of PTSD. This drug was sometimes used by snooker players as it stops shaky hands. I believe it is banned in that area now.

So if female hormones drugs are used it will not necessarily be for contraceptive purposes and should not be described as such.

If a nun is prescribed medication to relieve unpleasant menstrual symptoms she is hardly likely to call it contraception is she even if some of components of the medication would have that effect as a side effect.

People need to be better educated about medication so they understand it.

It's a contraceptive. I said as such. Just because she doesn't get it for contraception, doesn't alter the fact that it's a contraceptive device. Good grief. If a nun is given it for hormonal reason, she can call it whatever she likes. I am well educated in her medications thank you very much. I've had to be.

Propanalol is used for many things. I was on it for a while for TN. My father had it for TN. My mother had it for high blood pressure, as you said, it can be used for many things, but when I was on it, I just stated I was on a beta blocker as that's what it is.

Same with the amitriptyline. They are an antidepressant. So if I was telling anyone, I wouldn't say I'm on a drug to ease the trapped nerve pain, I'd tell them I'm on an A/D for my spine.

As I've said before I call a spade a spade, if you don't like that, it's really your problem, not mine.

And yes, she probably would use it as a contraceptive too if the need arose.

Dunroamin

MUMZ2BEE wrote: »

For your information I was born in this country and am white British get that right!!

Your racism is showing again!

Morlock

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

That's not a clever thing to say to say to another poster, when they are one of the people who feeds, houses, clothes, etc, you. Have you ever heard the saying "Never bite the hand that feeds you"?

That is very presumptuous of you, but it doesn't surprise me. Have you ever heard the saying, "Cutting off your nose to spite your face"?

clemmatis

Morlock wrote: »

That is very presumptuous of you, but it doesn't surprise me. Have you ever heard the saying, "Cutting off your nose to spite your face"?

I've only just seen that post, Morlock. (Did you see that three posters thanked it?)

I think, Miss MoneyPenny, I'd call your post entitled. Do you really mean it's all right to be rude to people unless they're "taxpayers", also, that only "taxpayers" are entitled to be rude?

leveller2911

clemmatis wrote: »

I've only just seen that post, Morlock. (Did you see that three posters thanked it?)



People click the "thanks" button because they find a post interesting. Finding a post interesting doesn't necessarily mean they agree with it.....;)

clemmatis

leveller2911 wrote: »

People click the "thanks" button because they find a post interesting. Finding a post interesting doesn't necessarily mean they agree with it.....;)

I've "thanked" posts that contained new or helpful information But the interesting content/novel element in MissMoneypenny's

That's not a clever thing to say to say to another poster, when they are one of the people who feeds, houses, clothes, etc, you. Have you ever heard the saying "Never bite the hand that feeds you"?

eludes me. I'd assumed the "thankers" were endorsing it.

princessdon

clemmatis wrote: »

I've "thanked" posts that contained new or helpful information But the interesting content/novel element in MissMoneypenny's



eludes me. I'd assumed the "thankers" were endorsing it.

Don't know if I endorsed it or not - but the sentiment is true.

How many people could give up work and rely on benefits? Probably a lot of us. Hypothetically I could go on ESA - Support Group, or claim Income Support as a carer and passport my healthy and able to work OH onto benefits.

If the UK did that, there would be huge trouble.

Some people acknowledge they are on benefits because of the tax payers and although should never feel like 2nd class citizens they acknowledge the support and that working should pay more.

Others seem to think it's a right and stuff the working/tax paying population and "rub their noses in it".

How do you think a family who say 1 has been made redundant, with a mortgage and £71 for 6 months feel when they read posts with over £1200 pm disposable income, talking of posting on their new "tablets" (ie techno tablets not medication), holidays etc.

Reactions like that are normal and although a wee bit direct and yes somewhat rude, very factual.

clemmatis

princessdon wrote: »

Don't know if I endorsed it or not - but the sentiment is true.

The "sentiment"? This "sentiment"?

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

That's not a clever thing to say to say to another poster, when they are one of the people who feeds, houses, clothes, etc, you. Have you ever heard the saying "Never bite the hand that feeds you"?

Seriously?

princessdon wrote: »

How many people could give up work and rely on benefits? (etc.)

I suggest you read the thread.

princessdon

clemmatis wrote: »

The "sentiment"? This "sentiment"?



Seriously?




I suggest you read the thread.

I have read the thread and I wouldn't be too much worse off if I gave up work.

On this thread alone there have been quotations of benefit claimaints with a higher disposable income than I have a dual working household (yes that is because my OH works away, as no jobs here, so we pay for 2 sets of living expenses), people saying they are posting on expensive tablets etc.

It's a kick in the teeth when you can't afford your own medical prescriptions let alone a fancy tablet.

Where would the economy be if we all gave up?

Some *need* to claim without choice, some claim because they can and others can claim because they chose not to. That is what makes life go round.

If I ever found myself on benefits (and NO ONE can say they won't) - I would always expect workers to be better off financially. Can't aplogise for the way I feel, it's my opinion.