Paypal say i have to pay the £500 for someone buying a stolen credit card

Taadaa

To be honest your last posting was a little too close to saying 'a fool and his money are easily parted' for my liking. Considering there are many users here, including myself, who have debts, I found it quite offensive.

But this is off track, the issue here is Paypal's treatment of our fellow MSE'ers. So let's drop all this tit for tat crap and focus on the problem and what can be done to h-e-l-p.

motorguy

Taadaa wrote: »

To be honest your last posting was a little too close to saying 'a fool and his money are easily parted' for my liking. Considering there are many users here, including myself, who have debts, I found it quite offensive.

But this is off track, the issue here is Paypal's treatment of our fellow MSE'ers. So let's drop all this tit for tat crap and focus on the problem and what can be done to h-e-l-p.

Well said!!

:T:T:T

Sugar_Coated_Owl

I agree with you !!!!!!. I can't be anymore clearer.

motorguy

powertron wrote: »

I never sell anything over £100 to an unconfirmed address nd where the buyer has a feedback score of less than 10.

Unfortunately you physically cant stop people who don't meet those credentials winning your auctions, thus you have to either take a 'chance' or try to resell the item - thus waiting another week for your money, and risk a neg from the buyer for being a non performing seller.

However, why cant ebay set up those rules? Why cant they make sure expensive items are only bid on by those people with confirmed addresses, with decent feedback?

If they were really commited to fraud reduction they should, rather than hide behind the 'conditions' they have in place to protect only themselves when something goes wrong.

motorguy

razorbladekisses wrote: »

I agree with you !!!!!!. I can't be anymore clearer.

I think Taadaa was referring to

razorbladekisses wrote: »

Anyway I'm not the fool that's lost any money so yeah w/e Idiot.

What you meant with that comment seems pretty clear to me

kriss_boy

I dont really have sympathy for those who get stung. Paypal and ebay may have unfair policies and structures but if you read what they have to say regarding fraud etc then its pretty simple to avoid.

In a way.. why should paypal cover other peoples ignorance? Fair enough highjacked accounts but selling to people with zero ratings in foreign countries, via unconfirmed paypal accounts?!?! Thats madness.

motorguy

kriss_boy wrote: »

I dont really have sympathy for those who get stung. Paypal and ebay may have unfair policies and structures but if you read what they have to say regarding fraud etc then its pretty simple to avoid.

In a way.. why should paypal cover other peoples ignorance? Fair enough highjacked accounts but selling to people with zero ratings in foreign countries, via unconfirmed paypal accounts?!?! Thats madness.

I agree, but why should people with zero ratings in foreign countries via unconfirmed accounts be allowed by ebay / paypal to bid in the first place?

I'm thinking specifically of items over say £50...

... plus i do think paypal should make it clearer that you are at risk. Their website talks about how 'safe' using paypal is, how easy it is, how risk free... It talks about the 'added protection' of sending to a confirmed address - when really it should read 'only protection'

frivolous_fay

pgilc1 wrote: »

I agree, but why should people with zero ratings in foreign countries via unconfirmed accounts be allowed by ebay / paypal to bid in the first place?

Because ebay refuse to enforce ebay verification. And don't hold your breath waiting.

motorguy

frivolous_fay wrote: »

Because ebay refuse to enforce ebay verification. And don't hold your breath waiting.

Yeah, and it would cost them money to do - all those transactions that couldnt go through, all that lost revenue - better to screw over the users than risk losing some profit

kriss_boy

frivolous_fay wrote: »

Because ebay refuse to enforce ebay verification. And don't hold your breath waiting.

Yea what they do is completely immoral. Because they make money out of us being ripped off and they continue to do so regardless.

But the bottom line is it doesnt take a genious to work out when a deal is suspicious. It just takes common sense. Its worrying how many people seem to fall for blatantly obivous scams. Its very worrying indeed!