MSE News: Mobile networks reveal iPhone 5 prices

grumbler

learningaboutinsurance wrote: »

Where on earth did you get this info. ...

I have not seen any proofs and don't know the legalities of this, but it's a wide spread opinion that Apple do some sort of price fixing for the tariffs.

However, it's a news to me that manufacturers of android devices do this and subsidise carriers.

NFH

grumbler wrote: »

I have not seen any proofs and don't know the legalities of this, but it's a wide spread opinion that Apple do some sort of price fixing for the tariffs.

Yes, this is definitely the case. The Orange Executive Office once confirmed this to me. They explained that they were unable to add a free bundle to my account because of Apple's price restrictions, but they could apply a goodwill credit to cover the cost of buying the bundle for the remainder of my contract.

diamonds

NFH wrote: »

Yes, this is definitely the case. The Orange Executive Office once confirmed this to me. They explained that they were unable to add a free bundle to my account because of Apple's price restrictions, but they could apply a goodwill credit to cover the cost of buying the bundle for the remainder of my contract.

As they did me, also Telstra in AU when they wanted to move me to a month to month contract, on both counts I was losing out and remained as is.

Peter999_2

JamesDyson wrote: »

Giffgaff do provide the small sims I have one in my current iphone!

There are three types of sims out at the moment. Normal, Micro and Nano.

You have a micro sim, and the new iPhone will use a Nano sim.

In my opinion, it is ridiculous for Apple to change from the normal sim and even worse to change it yet again. I do not see any benefit from doing this, its not enough of a plus that it makes the phone slightly lighter and makes more space for the rest of the gubbins.

diamonds

Peter999 wrote: »

There are three types of sims out at the moment. Normal, Micro and Nano.

You have a micro sim, and the new iPhone will use a Nano sim.

In my opinion, it is ridiculous for Apple to change from the normal sim and even worse to change it yet again. I do not see any benefit from doing this, its not enough of a plus that it makes the phone slightly lighter and makes more space for the rest of the gubbins.

Like betamax/vhs/dvd and now mp4 etc..technology moves on, Apple really could have waited till i6 for nano as other manufacturers moved to it instead of not organising nano with its network partners as as first priority with i5 launch, pis$ up in a brewery is accurate.

Peter999_2

I love the fact technology moves on.

However, technology has not moved on with the new SIM card's - nothing is gained from the new ones. If the new SIM card's were some sort of advancement then I'd be all for it but the fact is they are not.

In my view it is just pointless and just makes things confusing for everyone - as shown by this thread itself. This is not the thing to do by a company that supposedly has the customers interests at heart.

Kite2010

I will put money that by 2015 there will be some phones which don't use Sim cards at all, instead the mobile settings are plugged into the memory of the phone.

Peter999_2

Kite2010 wrote: »

I will put money that by 2015 there will be some phones which don't use Sim cards at all, instead the mobile settings are plugged into the memory of the phone.

This is sort of happening with Vodafone now. They have modems that have the "SIM" card printed onto the motherboard (business use).

The business then has a web portal to activate/deactivate the modem or change the SIM phone number if required etc.

NFH

Kite2010 wrote: »

I will put money that by 2015 there will be some phones which don't use Sim cards at all, instead the mobile settings are plugged into the memory of the phone.

It would be very convenient if you just needed a login to your mobile account instead of a SIM card, because "dual SIM" would become a software function rather than a hardware function; you could have multiple numbers simultaneously active on one phone. Roaming charges would plummet globally as it becomes logistically easier to enable local mobile numbers (with local charges) in other countries on your existing phone.

diamonds

Kite2010 wrote: »

I will put money that by 2015 there will be some phones which don't use Sim cards at all, instead the mobile settings are plugged into the memory of the phone.

You mean like Orange CDMA first launched handsets & network in Hong Kong by Orange's previous owner Hutchison Telecom in 1995 ?

The move from CDMA to sim cards has cost networks billions apon billions in handset subsidies, CDMA will make a come back, it saves money...given EU has restricted costs in EU expect Vodafone to go to CDMA with EU roaming built into price plans at one point.

Huawei has dual CDMA GSM base stations, expect them to pick up Vodafone backhaul contract worldwide for the cross back to CDMA-esque provision.