MSE News: Mobile networks reveal iPhone 5 prices

Batchy

If you can justify spending more on an iphone you do, those that cant slag the product.

I used to be one, but in fact the product makes life "stress free", that what I pay for, I use it a lot... Older smart phones, had all the go, but no show.

I have no idea about processors/ ram or what ever. I just wanted a product I know I can upgrade to, with little hassle, same apps, and just more and better features.

I told myself not to upgrade to IOS6 on my 3GS just so I can be more wowwed by the Iphone5 I have ordered. But I probably will anyway!! lol

If you going through austerity measures personally avoid the iphone... otherwise... people rarely regret it, unless they like to mess, root, jailbreak, etc, etc, etc.

grumbler

Mogz wrote: »

Yes:
I did stay on the o2 site - because price is obviously not the only consideration with telephones;

If so, you shouldn't have said "was actually the same price".

as a travelling salesman/engineer, mobile 3g access is key to my work and o2 provide excellent coverage for this.

so purely from o2:

32Gb white iphone 5
Upgrade with o2
upfront :£299.00
Data: 1Gb
Monthly Tariff: £26.00
Total tariff - 2 years: £624.00
Total cost over 2 years: £923.00

32Gb white iphone 5
upfront: Unlocked, from apple: £599.00
Data: 1200mb (100mb / month)
Monthly PAYG Tariff: £10.00
Total Tariff - 2 years: £240.00
Total cost over 2 years: £839.00
so PAYG _appears_ to be £90 cheaper over 2 years,

The cost of 599-299=£300 loan that you pay 24x£16 for is in fact 2.1% p.m. or 28% APR. Not a cheap loan for a mobile toy. Yes, a toy because many other less expensive devices can do the same job with the same if not better efficeiency.

but now factor in the hassle of topping up, charges and inconvenience when you run out. And transferring my number? Is it possible, will it work?

There are PAYG options with auto topup and many sim-only contracts that can be even cheaper. Transferring (porting) the number is a very simple procedure.

What about downtime?

What downtime?

It is a luxury I decided to invest in.

'Invest' is absolutely inappropriate word in this context.

custardy

Batchy wrote: »

If you can justify spending more on an iphone you do, those that cant slag the product.

I used to be one, but in fact the product makes life "stress free", that what I pay for, I use it a lot... Older smart phones, had all the go, but no show.

I have no idea about processors/ ram or what ever. I just wanted a product I know I can upgrade to, with little hassle, same apps, and just more and better features.

I told myself not to upgrade to IOS6 on my 3GS just so I can be more wowwed by the Iphone5 I have ordered. But I probably will anyway!! lol

If you going through austerity measures personally avoid the iphone... otherwise... people rarely regret it, unless they like to mess, root, jailbreak, etc, etc, etc.

lol. So anyone who doesnt go iphone cant afford one?

prowla

NFH wrote: »

Seeing as you haven't bothered to read the link properly, I'll explain. The monthly charge includes 50MB of data for everyone, and a choice between various bundles, one of which is 750MB of data. Therefore the monthly charge includes 50+750=800MB. Rather than boring everyone with the components of the 800, I just stated 800. Do you understand now?

custardy is simply pointing out that you originally said 800GB (gigabytes) instead of MB (megabytes), which was obviously by mistake.:)

billa_champion

Relax people! If someone want to buy the iPhone then what has it got to do with anyone else!? Its their money, they earned it and they can spend it how they want!
Live and let live!

grumbler

Mogz wrote: »

They report new credit products and new gas and electric products on a pretty much daily basis.

It's not the same. Reporting contract prices for a newly released iPhone is the same as reporting the best (yet very expensive) car finance options for a newly released, say, Bugatti. Would you expect this from a Money Saving Expert?

prowla

billa_champion wrote: »

Relax people! If someone want to buy the iPhone then what has it got to do with anyone else!? Its their money, they earned it and they can spend it how they want!
Live and let live!

Yup, and if MSE can help get the best deal then it's doing its job.

Mogz

grumbler wrote: »

If so, you shouldn't have said "was actually the same price".

Fair enough; I count my time as having considerable value with good reason. But I should have clarified this. Point taken.

grumbler wrote: »

There are PAYG options with auto topup and many sim-only contracts that can be even cheaper.

Already addressed this with the coverage points, and 3G points. you dont get something for nothing, and paying less, your service will have to suffer, at least a little. Mast coverage etc. will be inferior with cheaper lesser known brands PAYG. Unacceptable for me. I use 3g on the train for example, for business emails and GoToMeetings. Coverage needs to be TOP class.

grumbler wrote: »

Transferring (porting) the number is a very simple procedure. What downtime?

NOT TRUE. last time i tried going for a "cheaper deal" to save money on PAYG, they said i could transfer my number from my monthly tariff. I got hold of the PUK code (or PAK whatever it was) and 5 weeks later I was still using my temporary PAYG number. Ultimately, it was an epic fail, and 6 weeks later after hours of calls and frustration, and god knows how many missed sales opportunities due to the downtime, I had no choice but to change my number to the new, and working PAYG one. New business cards, phone calls to every customer...time....what did that cost me??!! I wont even begin to count.....

grumbler wrote: »

The cost of 599-299=£300 loan that you pay 24x£16 for is in fact 2.1% p.m. or 28% APR. Not a cheap loan for a mobile toy. Yes, a toy because many other less expensive devices can do the same job with the same if not better efficeiency.

When you put it like that, it looks like a poor decision, but bear in mind it will cost me a maximum of £90, to avoid all the potential issues already detailed and simply work, with no number change or provider change, or risk to my existing level of network coverage, it is worth it for me.

And with "better efficiency" is quite simply incorrect, from comeone who clearly has never used an apple product. it does EVERYTHING for you!

grumbler wrote: »

'Invest' is absolutely inappropriate word in this context.

You do not understand the term, or you have ignored all my points.

You invest money for value return.

I value the experience my iphone offers me, which is considerably better overall (as already detailed) than the alternative's user experience, not just the phone but content management.

I have an awful blackberry (going in the bin soon (read:ebay)), i used to suffer with a nokia touchscreen too (that was so bad...it almost made me cry). Androids are excellent but how are they going to sync to and from my itunes lossless audio database, and what about auto backups, and buying all my ESSENTIAL apps again for the alternative platform.

I do not own a standalone satnav for example, and having tried every free satnav available (with downloadable maps), they are all unreliable, and in many cases downright poor.

So I do not accept your response. Investment is more than just the numbers in a bank account especially with respect to a device which is on my person all day, every day and always in use, taking my calls, and guiding my vehicle, never forgotten, always charged, and always backed up automatically.

I have a common platform, a common interface, and a common backup and maintenance solution for 4 different devices.

Try managing
1) a windows phone (music, contacts, email, calendar,backup, sync of all)
2) a nokia phone (music, contacts, email, calendar,backup, sync of all)
3) an android phone (music, contacts, email, calendar,backup, sync of all)
4) and an apple phone (music, contacts, email, calendar,backup, sync of all)

and i'll see you after a nervous breakdown. It's I]unmanageable[/I].

They all backup with different systems, sync from different audio libraries.

In summary: the world is not black and white - I could go on for hours how my itunes library is stored on a raid mirror, and automatically syncs my photos to my dropbox account such that i'll never lose anything even in a fire; adding a new device type to save £100 here and there gives me far bigger headaches with these systems (which as a responsible 34 year old fellow from the digital era, I consider absolutely essential, others may not).

But enough, you obviously use your smartphone in a very simple way, I use every inch of its functionality to save me time/effort and bring peace of mind. Depends how much of a geek you are I guess, and I, am a massive geek! but a geek who likes ease of use, simply not offered by android.

Rgds

Mogz

grumbler wrote: »

It's not the same. Reporting contract prices for a newly released iPhone is the same as reporting the best (yet very expensive) car finance options for a newly released, say, Bugatti. Would you expect this from a Money Saving Expert?

Millions of people have an iphone, only about 900 own bugatti's

bad example dude.

grumbler

Mogz wrote: »

...Mast coverage etc. will be inferior with cheaper lesser known brands PAYG. ...

This is simply not true. There are 4 major networks that all virtual ('lesser known') brands use. Only two use O2 though: tesco and giffgaff.