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  • Mojisola
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    pmlindyloo wrote: »
    Sorry, the few words turned into a rather long post :)

    But a very good one!
  • daska
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    poet123 wrote: »
    I really think that you are pre emting a problem that may not arise. Find a nursery which suits you and your child and let her go for one or two half days at first perhaps, and she will find her level. School is only compulsory from rising five, so you have some time to find the right school for her, that may mean moving or going private.

    With respect, you sound as if you have deep seated issues which you are in danger of projecting onto your daughter. Those issues can do just as much damage (if not more so, as she is with you 24/7) as any issues at school could. Sensitivity is not necessarily a negative trait until it becomes the issue which precludes normal activities. School is pretty much the norm for everyone (although there are some good reasons to Home Ed) and until you have allowed your child to try it you will be doing her a disservice both in terms of emotional and educational development.

    And sometimes that level is trying to hide in a corner feeling increasingly overwhelmed. It really depends what the root cause is here, if it's shyness then familiarity will overcome. On the other hand, if it's a sensory overload then it won't do one jot of good unless that's understood and catered for.
    Mojisola wrote: »
    But a very good one!

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  • lovely post pmlindyloo but I just wanted to point out that leaving ds for a short while and trying to extend it was absolutely the worst thing for my son. He was either happy to be left because he trusted the caregiver or he wasn't. Any hint of me wanting a certain outcome would guarantee the opposite. Try different approaches by all means OP as every child is different but don't be pushed into something your child isn't happy with.
  • shellsuit
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    edited 30 August 2012 at 2:28PM
    marrbett wrote: »
    We've found a local school to be very helpful regarding exams, we pay around £65 per exam. Depends if its a GCSE or IGCSE (or old O Level!) Hth

    Thank you :)
    I am in London. I know of one centre in north London which charges around £30 per exam but it can be as much as £150 in some private schools. You do need to shop around. Not all centres do all exam boards either which can limit your choice.

    And thank you too! :)
    ViolaLass wrote: »
    She'd probably do some outing/field trip or other at school, and she would spend time doing group work, at least in my class she would.

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    She wouldn't do a field trip or an outing to help with her exams, I've said that before and I know that because my son has just left the school to go on to 6th form.

    If she stays at school, of course she would work in groups at times, but I'm not talking about the way she is taught at school and whether it's in a group or not, I'm talking about if she was home educated where she wouldn't work in a group.

    I don't have to justify myself to anyone here, how it would work, or how I would do it, if I pull her out of school, that's between me, her and her Father, who I know would back me all the way.




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  • poet123
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    daska wrote: »
    And sometimes that level is trying to hide in a corner feeling increasingly overwhelmed. It really depends what the root cause is here, if it's shyness then familiarity will overcome. On the other hand, if it's a sensory overload then it won't do one jot of good unless that's understood and catered for.

    I agree, it does depend on the root cause. Sensory overload can be worked on in small chunks for small amounts of time, the root cause has to be addressed though, not shied away from. Full time schooling is too much for some children till they are over five, but they do need to be prepared for it before then or it can indeed result in sensory overload.
  • LTP123
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    No problems for hijacking! I'm glad there was such a huge response. I am currently part way through a CBT course and I am doing well.

    All I want is for my daughter to grow up sure of herself and her abilities. I don't allow my fears to be noticed by my daughter. She would even know some in her class but that doesn't seem to make any difference to her.

    As I have said before, I recognise things in her unfortunately. We went for an open day at the school. She went with some others without the parents and we joined them later. All the children were playing nicely but our daughter was in the corner, on her own, back to everyone playing with an abacus. She likes small groups though..
  • Janepig
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    pmlindyloo wrote: »
    Most other countries do not even start school until the age of six.

    Word missing here is "formal". They don't start "formal" schooling until six or seven. So we tend to get a bit dewy eyed about how scandinavian, etc.. children must therefore be with their parents 24/7 up to that point, and having wonderful life experiences. With high numbers of working mothers, and affordable, often free childcare, children in these countries are in a "childcare" setting from a very young age until they start the "formal schooling" at the age of 7. So I always think that the argument is a little bit of a red herring. Not forgetting that there are a good number of children in this country whose parents couldn't give two hoots about their education so maybe going to school at a young age gives them some much needed stability in their lives. Again, ours is a very different culture from the scandinavian one and it would take alot more than just adopting their school starting age to change attitudes towards education over here.

    My two (shock horror) started full time school at the age of 3. My cousin's DS will be 3 at the end of next August and he will be starting f/t in the September. Strangely enough, their school is literally bursting at the seams and is the only oversubscribed school in the LEA. Both of my children are very different characters, but they've both coped no problem. They have an "early years" curriculum in Wales with an emphasis on play, child led learning and outdoor play, and the school follows this.

    DD has always been quiet and not someone who makes friends easily - consistently since she was very young her teachers have said that they don't know they've got her in the class because she's so quiet but she's got involved in all aspects of school life and loves going to school. I notice the OP seems to have removed the post where she said she wished her child was one of the "rough ones" who just ran into school (or words to that effect), and that is also probably part of the issue, that her DD may be mixing with "ruffians" if she goes to school. Both of mine "run into school" because they love it, they certainly aren't "rough"!!

    Also, the problem with any advice given on these sorts of threads is that you have the home schoolers who are going to evangelise about that, and the ones who don't home school who are going to advise that the OP sends her DD to school. No middle ground really. Plus, I think the OP will settle on advice that pushes her in the direction she wants to go in anyway.

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  • LTP123
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    Thanks for your response but would like to add I havent removed any posts. Also, when I use the term 'rougher ones' I mean playing and not worrying about anyone else. I certainly wouldn't refer to another person like that. I know I am no better than anyone.
  • ViolaLass
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    LTP123 wrote: »
    As I have said before, I recognise things in her unfortunately. We went for an open day at the school. She went with some others without the parents and we joined them later. All the children were playing nicely but our daughter was in the corner, on her own, back to everyone playing with an abacus. She likes small groups though..

    Was she unhappy? I don't think it's a problem per se that she was playing on her own.
  • mithras
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    edited 30 August 2012 at 4:16PM
    Hi Jane, I agree with what you're saying about the Scandanvian model, there is a tendency to over look the fact of free and subsidised childcare from a very early age.
    Janepig wrote: »
    the problem with any advice given on these sorts of threads is that you have the home schoolers who are going to evangelise about that, and the ones who don't home school who are going to advise that the OP sends her DD to school. No middle ground really. Plus, I think the OP will settle on advice that pushes her in the direction she wants to go in anyway.

    Jx

    A few posters have found that middle ground on this thread offering what I took to be fair and balanced opinions and honest personal experience - both for and against school.

    Evangelising is a strong term to use and not appropriate in the context particularly when you only apply the evangelising comment to the supporters of home education whereas the proponents of school are merely 'advising'.

    I fully support home education but accept that it is not for every family. I feel no need to try and 'convert' others away from school but am happy to share my (mostly) positive experiences about life outside of the school system if others have a genuine curiosity about it :).
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