MSE Pregnancy Club 25

Rups32

how cute are everyones pets? awwwhhh. so cute enjoying the sunshine as well. hehe

well i must as well not eat anything then. lol. icecream is my weakness and that does make me sad esp as it is so yum! how can you not like it cake? i think where we went, it was lovely all sorts of flavours. damn,

twinklie

I have my first lot of baby clothes out drying on the line. SOOOO bloomin' cute. They look both tiny and big all at the same time. Ha ha. I can't get my head round it.

LittleMoog

Afternoon ladies

Just back from consultant, they were running relatively on time for once All normal, no issues with thyroid levels, back at 32 weeks. I even got a sneaky look at Beanie, as she used a portable ultrasound to check the heartbeat If all looks good at next appointment we can discuss me using the midwife-led centre, but she wouldn't commit to it I'm a bit bummed about this as I don't see why a thyroid problem would make me higher risk in labour? Confused!

savageHK

With all this food stuff I'd say take it with a pinch of salt. Yes, you don't want to catch salmonella, and yes, you don't want to catch listeriosis, but I've never had either before.

NHS's take on Salmonella is that you don't really want to catch it as you'll feel crap but the baby will be fine: "Although salmonella food poisoning is unlikely to harm your baby, it can cause severe diarrhoea and vomiting."

Listeriosis is more problematic as it can be harmful to the baby and apparently you are much more at risk of catching it when you are pregnant as your natural defences are down, NHS take:

"Listeria can be found in unpasteurised milk and in many chilled foods, including:

• pât!
• mould-ripened soft cheeses and soft blue-veined cheeses
• cooked sliced meats
• smoked salmon

You can reduce your risk of listeriosis by:

• not eating mould-ripened soft cheeses such as brie, camembert, chèvre (a type of goats’ cheese) and others with a similar rind
• not eating soft blue-veined cheeses such as Danish blue, gorgonzola and roquefort
• not eating pât! of any kind, including vegetable pât!
• not drinking unpasteurised milk - only drink pasteurised or UHT milk
• heating ready meals or reheated food until they’re piping hot all the way through
• making sure your fridge is set at 5C or below and working correctly
• not using food after its ‘use by’ date
• eating food taken out of the fridge within four hours - after this time it should be thrown away"

In any case the two current cases of listeria outbreak seem to be melons and onions (have a search of google news). Personally, I'd probably have the ice cream (I wouldn't, though, have one directly out of the machine, but if they are scooping the ice cream onto my cone, I'd have it).

LittleMoog

savageHK wrote: »

With all this food stuff I'd say take it with a pinch of salt. Yes, you don't want to catch salmonella, and yes, you don't want to catch listeriosis, but I've never had either before.

NHS's take on Salmonella is that you don't really want to catch it as you'll feel crap but the baby will be fine: "Although salmonella food poisoning is unlikely to harm your baby, it can cause severe diarrhoea and vomiting."

Listeriosis is more problematic as it can be harmful to the baby and apparently you are much more at risk of catching it when you are pregnant as your natural defences are down, NHS take:

"Listeria can be found in unpasteurised milk and in many chilled foods, including:

• pât!
• mould-ripened soft cheeses and soft blue-veined cheeses
• cooked sliced meats
• smoked salmon

You can reduce your risk of listeriosis by:

• not eating mould-ripened soft cheeses such as brie, camembert, chèvre (a type of goats’ cheese) and others with a similar rind
• not eating soft blue-veined cheeses such as Danish blue, gorgonzola and roquefort
• not eating pât! of any kind, including vegetable pât!
• not drinking unpasteurised milk - only drink pasteurised or UHT milk
• heating ready meals or reheated food until they’re piping hot all the way through
• making sure your fridge is set at 5C or below and working correctly
• not using food after its ‘use by’ date
• eating food taken out of the fridge within four hours - after this time it should be thrown away"

In any case the two current cases of listeria outbreak seem to be melons and onions (have a search of google news). Personally, I'd probably have the ice cream (I wouldn't, though, have one directly out of the machine, but if they are scooping the ice cream onto my cone, I'd have it).

In general I'm not that bothered by raw egg as salmonella is so rare now - as long as my eggs are lion stamped, I don't worry about it. I
also personally am not bothered by supermarket brie/goats cheese, but I probably wouldn't eat some from a farmer's market, or bought in the middle of France etc. Luckily for me I hate liver, pate and blue cheeses, so most of the list isn't really that hard for me to avoid!

One of my friends is an ice cream development scientist though, and when we told her we're having a baby she warned me to be careful about mr whippy sytle soft ice creams - it's because of the raw egg, and doubtful hygiene of the machines. Apparently McDonald's only clean out the McFlurry machine once a week _pale_

Cake4brains

LittleMoog wrote: »

Apparently McDonald's only clean out the McFlurry machine once a week _pale_

:eek: Ive been eating mcflurrys like theyre going out of fashion. I know we are supposed to avoid soft ice-cream but thought with McD's being such a big established company they would be more rigorous with their cleaning of machines. Gutted!

forgot to say - glad your appt went well and you got to see beanie again!

savageHK

LittleMoog wrote: »

In general I'm not that bothered by raw egg as salmonella is so rare now - as long as my eggs are lion stamped, I don't worry about it.

Yep, forgot to say, in the UK all hens have to be injected against salmonella so if you have British eggs they can't get salmonella.

savageHK

LittleMoog wrote: »

One of my friends is an ice cream development scientist though

How do you land that job?

savageHK

Cake4brains wrote: »

:eek: Ive been eating mcflurrys like theyre going out of fashion. I know we are supposed to avoid soft ice-cream but thought with McD's being such a big established company they would be more rigorous with their cleaning of machines. Gutted!

"In 2010, there were an estimated 156 cases of listeriosis in England and Wales, 17 of which were in pregnant women." - so your odds are still quite small I'd guess...

KatyLiz

The Sure Start Maternity Grant used to be given to loads of people, but hardly anyone qualifies now. It's only for those on certain benefits who don't have any existing children under 16 now.

My MW went on about the dangers of McFlurry's at my booking appointment. Having said that though, I ate one a week when I was pregnant with my daughter as nobody told me then, and I didn't catch anything! Oh, and the same goes for McDonald's milkshakes as they don't clean the machines, they are a worse risk than the McFlurrys apparently. I really miss their chocolate milkshakes!!