MSE Pregnancy Club 25

chonorla

dizziblonde - :grouphug: Not sure really what else to say but it does sound as though you are having a rough time at the moment

Jewels1207 - sometimes the unknown is better as you have less to compare it to and ignorance can be bliss :rotfl:. And if it makes you feel any better I have had 3 back-to-back labors - one took 4 hours from induction, second was just under 2 hours from waters breaking to birth and she turned as I went into labor and the 3rd was just under an hour from induction. So two of them actually delivered back-to-back.

I managed on gas and air with all of mine because I wanted to remain active, despite having a ventouse with the first - (due to other complications which were not due to DS being back to back) and I have to say they were all painful , but the pain was in my back rather than my front with the back-to-backers.

Oh and I did all the exercises religiously but mine were all too stubborn to shift. But did look a bit of a banana hanging over the birthing ball or off the settee every night while watching TV. I was amusement for my DH though


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Jewels1207

iwannabeonthebeach - you are right. It will all be worth it in the end. How are you feeling about getting your section next week?

chonorla - I am the same as you and would like to get through it without an epidural if possible. I know I wont be able to know what i want/need until it's happening but i've had people say to me 'oh definitely get the epidural'. I'd rather wait and try going without it and if I need it then fair enough.

I'm sure my husband will find me carrying out the exercises amusing as well!

Jewels x

dundeediva

Dizzi please don't feel alone, it sounds like you are going through a truly AWFUL time at the moment and I can see why! I hate the thought of you feeling so low, do you have any friends who can help out? even if they can just listen for a while it might help. Please feel free to a post on here anytime you like if you want to talk, I have never been in your situation but I am more than willing to listen to you anytime you need. Just thought I'd also add, your little girl is an amazingly happy child, that only comes from having a good mum. Remember that x

Benicetomyself I have a mixture tbh, All my sheets, mattress, pram, car seat etc are new, cot is almost new (was my nieces before sil moved to canada, beenused twice), changing unit is used. all of the clothes I have for her are new, I feel better knowing they are brand new, but all of them were sales, supermarkets etc.

Jewels hi! This is my first and i think i'm a bit in denial! I have in my head that my labour will be quick and easy and ill get a quick discharge from hospital too...don't worry about b2b though, plenty of time to move

chonorla

Jewels - It never crossed my mind to have an epidural with my first or second, but by my 3rd a number of people were saying I was mad giving birth without one :think: To be honest the thought of not being able to feel my legs scares me more than labor _pale_ and I don't do needles either

I am a bit of a "get on with it person" and I had read so much about keeping mobile and gravity helping that I march round like a mad woman till I need the gas and air :rotfl: Maybe this does result in my fast labors but it works for me so will be on a mission again with number four

First baby is always different for people because you just don't know how you will be, but just try not to panic - easier said than done I know, but I think once you lose control and sight of what you are doing it can all seem unbearable.

Am sure you will be fine, whatever you decide, and remember the prize at the end is a lovely fresh newborn baby

iwannabeonthebeach

Jewels1207 wrote: »

iwannabeonthebeach - you are right. It will all be worth it in the end. How are you feeling about getting your section next week?

chonorla - I am the same as you and would like to get through it without an epidural if possible. I know I wont be able to know what i want/need until it's happening but i've had people say to me 'oh definitely get the epidural'. I'd rather wait and try going without it and if I need it then fair enough.

I'm sure my husband will find me carrying out the exercises amusing as well!


Jewels x

I am nervous, but I would be nervous however I was giving birth. At least this way I know what day it is going to happen!

Have you done any antenatal? I have found doing the NCT has really helped.

pigpen

I am increasingly terrified with each one I have.. the first I kind of breezed through it and it wasn't too horrific compared with subsequent experiences.

It isn't the actual getting it out I have issues with it is the appalling attitudes and treatment by the staff in the cattle market!

pigpen

Dizzi.. Is there any reason to think this one will also be early? Tell them to send you up here and I'll come hold your hand and bring you chippy and McD's and cooked dinners.. I'm not that far from Lincoln. I had evil SPD with the last 2 so fully understand what it is like.. OH had to help me in and out of bed and off the loo.. so dignified! You could always just not go to the hospital you are booked into and go to a different one. If you turn up in labour they have to deliver you, they cannot turn you away. I wish you were closer I'd come and growl scarily at the $h!tty staff for you, I am very good at it

In the long term it is a couple of days/weeks out of your whole long life and if allow those few days to determine how you live the rest of that life you are just going to compound the feelings and make yourself feel worse. You cannot let the action of a few mentally disturbed medical staff dictate how you live the rest of your life, it takes time, sometimes a long time before you can let it go. I managed to type out a very very brief version of the barbary that was the delivery of DD3 a few days ago and she is over 12.. I did it without getting angry or crying or anything else... it is possible to get there. Do you feel you would benefit from counselling or a chance to discuss the events surrounding your girly's arrival with a MW or the consultant? I knew I wouldn't, I just wanted to hit anyone remotely associated with the whole vicious event, but you might?

dizziblonde

Oh if I have to I'll get in the car, cross legs and tell hubby to hit the road and try to push as far to get to near my parents as he can rather than go back to the hellhole hospital.

They never found out why she came early (they never seemed bothered) and they've not bothered with any monitoring or anything this time around - but with it being a very close together pregnancy as well - I've been told that bumps the risks up as well... I've kind of got to plan for it to happen to keep my panic under control if that makes any sense? Especially since the social services crap they pulled last time could well resurface to bite me - I need to make sure that our other girl is absolutely 100% cared for and we're whiter than white in all regards to know that I've done everything I can not to put her at risk - because if they came back after us, because we had another child - I'd feel like it was my fault and my selfishness that had caused it... probably makes no sense but I felt so much guilt for so long about that referral because I'd tried to assert some degree of control and choice over my own body and that I felt I'd been selfish and put her at risk - I can't be in that position and carry that level of guilt again.

I've got a meeting with their specialist terrified midwife later this week to hopefully try to reassure me - I'm hoping (I've been led to believe) they can flag me up as a high priority NOT to be redirected if the unit's full (they actually clean this hospital so not surprisingly it's the busier unit with the people making an informed choice over where to go) to at least try to prevent me going back to the other one... but I saw no point in birth debriefs or anything like that since they'll just close ranks, and all my maternity notes are criticising me, painting me as a nightmare (they've basically distorted an incident when I asked when a canula could be removed and if they could re-tape one of the tubes going into it 1mm to the left as it was being pulled everytime my finger moved into me screaming, shouting, threatening to rip it out and basically turning into the Incredible Hulk - that sort of thing is all the way through all of them) and I've got no fight left to try to correct that - I know what they all were saying about me when I arrived on the ward - I spent the entire first night there lying listening to their very indiscreet conversations about me being a nightmare patient (because I'd asked a nurse earlier in the day to give me two minutes with hubby as she'd been shouting at me and scaring me witless, and when she ignored me and continued yelling, I pointed out I'd requested this twice now and she was ignoring me - she decided to tag me as a problem which meant they treated me and labelled me as such on her say-so and made my time there and birth hell). I think I'd be more upset sitting in a birth debrief where they basically toe the party line and throw out their usual "well, being blunt we don't actually care about THE WOMEN, we're just interested in the babies" line they told me more than once while in the hospital - and I'd probably come out more shaken and let-down... plus I can't rock the boat or they'll tag me as a resistant patient again and that brings the risk of social services.

They did a pretty nice job of using social services to tame what they'd been told would be a tricky patient didn't they? (I've since found they did similar to a few other women) We can't ever get the past referral wiped from our record so it's always there hanging over us, putting us at a lower disbelief threshold than anyone else anyway... hence - I've just got to let them do whatever they want to me, lie back and think of England and try to just do whatever needed to get out as fast as I can.

pigpen

I took out my own cannula with 3 of mine.. 2 I took out and walked out.. no discharge or anything..

SS referrals aren't taken into account even if you get another 10 so long as nothing is found to be an issue they just drop it. They leave babies with druggies and criminals so yours is more than secure. I have a couple of malicious referrals.. one from KH's latest slapper.

You don't have to let them do anything.. and make sure your hubby knows what you absolutely do not want and he can fight your corner.

They don't care about the women.. once you are pregnant you are nothing more than a vessel for a parasite.. you are totally insignificant.. I got used to that idea a long time ago. I had kidney failure with Squeak and they said' well the baby is fine'.. I replied.. in a growl.. 'I don't actually give a f*** if the baby is ok or not *I* am extremely ill, I've not slept, I have passed a cups worth of urine in the last week, I have gained almost a stone in retained fluid and if you don't get this baby out I will go home, crack out the knives and do it myself.. your choice!'

I won..

My notes say all sorts about me.. my daughters notes do too lol.. Mine say I am stroppy and difficult and obnoxious and refuse any kind of intervention and if they pee me off I am known to walk out.. My daughters say I am a fantastic supportive birth partner though I am pushing for a natural delivery and not the section they wanted to do because theatre was empty and 'might not be later' .. Seriously skewed here.. there was nothing to indicate a section was even remotely necessary.. baby and DD1 were both doing fine... I said I think they wrote about 2 different people!

I wonder if you would benefit from someone else being there .. not a doula they just back up what the medical morons say and gang up against you with them.. do you have a strpopy relative or friend you could take with you too?? I want to come and growl at them for you!

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