Attitude of SOME people (cleaners) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Timalay wrote: »

I'm a School cleaner, but I can take some of your points. At times it isn't a nice job (particularly when you more work piled on you, and you have to do it in the same time). But moaning about the cleaner, when you've got them through a agency. I would be complaining through the agency if I was you.

Which is why I'm about to get rid of number 2.

kazzah60

I do run my own company but I'm the only employee so it all ends with me. Yes, I am pretty well paid too and educated. But, remember, education is pretty much free (student loans and fees apart) and available to all in this country if you choose to take it up.


ha ha ha ha - tell that to the thousands of students saddled with HUGE debts following a university education

my friends son graduated with £40,000 worth of debt - mostly made up of fees and living expenses ( rent) - he set out on his career with debts totalling more than my first house cost to buy - hardly "free" :rotfl:

meeps

I would suggest you need to find a cleaner through word of mouth, ask friends or neighbours.



I think there are two types of cleaner, those that are happy to do it, and those that begrudge having to do it (but then that could be said of a lot of jobs) and obviously someone who is happy in their work is likely to do a better job of it.

missile

Well said meeps.

I find people in all occupations who don't really want to work. IMHO it is not related to their academic achievement, background, social standing or salary.

I don't really know if previous generations had a better work ethic or maybe it just seems that way?

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kazzah60 wrote: »

I do run my own company but I'm the only employee so it all ends with me. Yes, I am pretty well paid too and educated. But, remember, education is pretty much free (student loans and fees apart) and available to all in this country if you choose to take it up.


ha ha ha ha - tell that to the thousands of students saddled with HUGE debts following a university education

my friends son graduated with £40,000 worth of debt - mostly made up of fees and living expenses ( rent) - he set out on his career with debts totalling more than my first house cost to buy - hardly "free" :rotfl:

Not as good as in my day admitedly. But its still there if you want to do it. I'm just pointing out that everyone can do it if they so desire.

whitegoods_engineer

This Paul Foel character lambasts cleaners for being lazy. This is the man who is presumably too lazy to pick up a vacuum!

Well I work full time but don't expect somebody to come to my house and slave for me for a pittance.

Unlike this man, I clean my own house when I am not working. You might like to try it yourself OP. You seem to have loads of spare time spouting your nonsense on here, why not get yourself a mop and bucket out and work off some of your pompousity.

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whitegoods_engineer wrote: »

This Paul Foel character lambasts cleaners for being lazy. This is the man who is presumably too lazy to pick up a vacuum!

Well I work full time but don't expect somebody to come to my house and slave for me for a pittance.

Unlike this man, I clean my own house when I am not working. You might like to try it yourself OP. You seem to have loads of spare time spouting your nonsense on here, why not get yourself a mop and bucket out and work off some of your pompousity.

By that rationale, everyone who employs a cleaner is lazy. Not quite sure what to say about that to be honest.

Also, think about it - if everyone had your attitude and that it was somehow 'wrong' to employ a cleaner, then cleaners wouldn't have an income. And remember its not slave labour, they do get paid, and £8 an hour is above minimum wage I think?

lilac-straw

spadoosh wrote: »

C'mon, i think my reaction to the original post was perfectly acceptable and so far havent managed to slate anyone.

There you go again, i do have meaningful jobs. I do the accounts admin for a small care organisation (owned by my mother hence the low pay) and occasionally do visits. And work for a retailer, yes it might not be a prestigious job or highly valued job but just as important as any other job. If you dont have the people at the bottom you dont have anyone at the top.

I dont measure success on status. I measure success on happiness and morales. Its definatley against the grain but i don't think its wrong. We live in a society of one up manship and your posts prove this by you valuing your job over a cleaner when theres every chance a cleaner could be equally as good a person as you or anyone else.

Everyone in society is valuable but we seem to think some are more valuable than others when its simply not the case. In my work there are carers who do 60 hrs a week volunteering 20 hours of their time, they are on minimmum wage and can struggle to pay the bills month in month out. They do this out of enjoyment or they feel obliged to look after the vulnerable, yet there are plastic surgeons (the vanity ones not neccessarily the reconstructive ones) for example(who contribute soo little to society its almost sickening) who earn £100k+ who are seen as more successful. Thats not right!

If I could have thanked you're post a million times I wold have. I thought I was the only one who thought like this! Nice to see I'm not. :T

Ada_Doom

Padz wrote: »

Woudl be great if it was just cleaners. Some days it seems like no one in Britain can be bothered to do their job properly!!!

Care to expand on that?

Homeagain

Humphrey10 wrote: »

I never work on my birthday, I always book it as annual leave. I know quite a few other people who do this too. Why should a cleaner be any different?

With respect, there are very few people who can afford to do this! Especially if they are on a daily/hourly rate.