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Who's going to loose when DLA becomes PIP?
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It's not just the fraud rate.
I get HRM & MRC and to be honest I cannot say that I am disable
I can still go to the gym every week, I
Oh dear, I think you have just shot yourself in the foot!
I can now feel the rush of posters waiting to stampede on your above post!
You have rather contradicted yourself when you quote the following;
'So am I disabled - no not really' am I considered to be disabled - well yes I am - So I must be disabled!! uummmmm'
Which one is right?
What you have said above just doesn't make any sense at all!
Read it back a couple of times and you will see what I mean!0 -
SueDerbyshire wrote: »I have read alot about PIP and the changes ahead but what I can't seem to find is when are they intending on bringing PIP in. Does anyone know when this will be?
Also, has it been agreed who will be assessed first? I was assessed last year after they had decided to make it harder to pass an assessment (ESA assessment - this was used to decide whether I was entitled to DLA, including my form and doctors reports etc). I was told at the time, it was harder than ever to pass and therefore recieve DLA (not sure if that was true). I was just thinking that they must have some idea who they feel needs to be assessed first, such as people who have not been assessed for a while. Any ideas?
Thank you.
Sue0 -
Sorry, this is the first I have heard of this. I only got awarded it for my son a few weeks ago and it said it was dues for review in 2013. He has been awarded Middle rate and they have said that I should apply for the mobility side when he is 3 (as it cant be claimed before) when are all these changes due to come in? and will my son be affected if his claim is so recent. We are going to put the money towards him going to a nursery for one more day a week as he loves it so much but there is no point if we could lose it. i would hate to dissappoint him.
thank you for your help xx
At the moment there are no plans to switch anyone under 16 over to PIP. Unless things change in the meanwhile (and it is a long time until your son will be 16), the plan will be to assess him for PIP sometime around the time he reaches 16.0 -
You don't seem to have much problem sitting at a computer and typing bile all day. What is stopping you from getting a job in customer services, answering e-maill or online queries? You could even work from home.
Was just reading this thread whilst sipping tea, out of curiosity. Your post triggered a question in me that pops up every time I see comments suggesting these people get a job ... and the question is this:
Would you employ him?her? I doubt it. And I doubt many employers will employ any of them. Employees that get sick all the time, go on sick all the time. Yes, employers are obliged by law to not discriminate against disabled people ... but I think you'll find a lot circumnavigate those rules and get away with it. All these people on disability benefits that ATOS and the Govt. are trying to get out to work - they are assuming some employers want to employ them! I don't think they need to worry, I am guessing most wouldn't be able to get a job even if they wanted one.
I just wonder where the Govt. think all these jobs for ex-claimants they kick of disability benefits are going to come from.0 -
If they get kicked off disability benefits, they will get "regular" benefits though won't they?When your life is a mess, stop and think what you are doing before bringing more kids into it, it's not fair on them.
GLAD NOT TO BE A MEMBER OF THE "ENTITLED TO " UNDER CLASS0 -
Who is 'rotoguys'? First it was Andy now this.
I haven't a clue what you are on about. For a start I haven't got any savings.
As for the rest of the post - you have me lost??
£40,000 - £20,000 I wish!!
I'm sorry you haven't a clue what I'm on about, I thought I'd explained it, so I'll try again. Rotoguys is another poster, and as you said you'd been a lurker for some time, I thought you might have remembered the post to which I was referring.
He said that he was going to buy a car, so that he would reduce his level of savings - apparently he was getting tons of money that he didn't need,m and didn't want to lose his Pension Credit.
You said that many people would have to return their Motability cars, to which they would no longer be entitled, and they'd have to buy their own car.
My question was, that if somebody, not you, had £40,000 in savings, and then had to spend £20,000 on their own car, of sufficient size to take a wheelchair, and adapted accordingly, they would have reduced their savings to £20,000 and would now be eligible for Pension Credit.
Would that scenario not be seen as deprivation of capital? Or would they be able to claim Pension Credit.
xx0 -
. By the way I don't work - too ill and disabled to do so, I will cut back on other things to compensate.I get HRM & MRC and to be honest I cannot say that I am disabled.
Yes I tick the right boxes and give the right answers but surely there has to be more to it than that?
I can still go to the gym every week, I enjoy my food. OK I can hardly walk. Big deal! And my wife has to do a fair bit for me, which is what a marriage is about anyhow.
So am I disabled - no not really, am I considered to be disabled - well yes I am - So I must be disabled!! uummmmm.
And you said you couldn't understand my post!
xx0 -
SandraScarlett wrote: »I'm sorry you haven't a clue what I'm on about, I thought I'd explained it, so I'll try again. Rotoguys is another poster, and as you said you'd been a lurker for some time, I thought you might have remembered the post to which I was referring.
xx
Yes, I remember that poster - he was always moaning about the fact that him and his wife had so much money coming in from disability benefits that they couldn't spend it and that they had been made to claim carer's allowance for each other, and something should be done about disabled people being given too much money.
Then the next thing was - he'd sold his car and got a motability car, and the proceeds from the sale of the car had pushed his savings over the limit for means tested benefits, so having complained he had too much money, he was looking for a loophole so that he could keep his savings AND his means tested benefits, on the grounds that the money might be needed to buy another car at some point in the future.
When it was pointed out that there was no such loophole, this man who claimed that he has so many benefits coming in that he couldn't spend the money and wanted to give some of it back, then decided to give up his motability car, and buy a new car from his savings, so his means tested benefits would not be affected.
He was also in favour of the whole disability benefits system being changed so that 'people like him' would get less money. Just like certain other posters on this board.I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.0 -
suburbanwifey wrote: »Was just reading this thread whilst sipping tea, out of curiosity. Your post triggered a question in me that pops up every time I see comments suggesting these people get a job ... and the question is this:
Would you employ him?her? I doubt it. And I doubt many employers will employ any of them. Employees that get sick all the time, go on sick all the time. Yes, employers are obliged by law to not discriminate against disabled people ... but I think you'll find a lot circumnavigate those rules and get away with it. All these people on disability benefits that ATOS and the Govt. are trying to get out to work - they are assuming some employers want to employ them! I don't think they need to worry, I am guessing most wouldn't be able to get a job even if they wanted one.
I just wonder where the Govt. think all these jobs for ex-claimants they kick of disability benefits are going to come from.
DLA isn't an out of work benefit and many people claim and work full time.
As far as ESA goes, lack of jobs and employer prejeudice has little to do with it; if someone is able to work then they should be on the appropriate benefit.0
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