Who's going to loose when DLA becomes PIP?

uponahill

SandraScarlett wrote: »

I was interested to read your forthcoming plans uponahill regarding the purchase of a new car, and relinquishing your Motability one, ahead of time.

I seem to remember rotoguys saying he was going to do the same thing, but then he stopped posting, just after someone suggested that his actions could be seen as deprivation of capital. I believe he was on/hoping to go on Pension Credit, and was desperate not to have more than a certain amount of capital.

Supposing someone had £40,000 in savings, and because their Motability car was returned, they needed to buy one, with adaptations, and roomy enough for their wheelchair, and that cost them £20,000. They would then fall below the twenty something thousand savings, which would trigger Pension Credit. Is that right? Thank you.

xx

Who is 'rotoguys'? First it was Andy now this.

I haven't a clue what you are on about. For a start I haven't got any savings.

As for the rest of the post - you have me lost??
£40,000 - £20,000 I wish!!

uponahill

schrodie wrote: »

More likely is that should this con-lib government survive the next election or worse [heaven forbid] the tories get back in toto then it wouldn't surprise me if DLA/PIP became the responsibility of local councils then this con-libs reduction of 20% in the DLA caselaod will seem like chicken-feed!!

Of the three main parties that has the real ability to get us out of the mess we are in (courtesy of Labour) is in fact the Tories minus the Cleggie party!

Given half a chance we would be a loy further forward than we are now.

It needs a government that understands how business works, how money works, not some glorified trade union that sees the employees as more than able to run a country and the Cleggie lot that should be gently pushed into the long grass never to be seen again!!

But hey this forum has nothing to do with politics so sorry for the comments.

Anubis_2

uponahill wrote: »

Oh for goodness sake - of course there are plans. Just at the moment they are not being implimented.

Link to the plans please and backup what you state. There are NO current plans to extend PIP assessments to over 65 and under 16, if there are, please link to them.

18. Will pensioners receiving DLA be affected by these changes?
• No. At the moment Personal Independence Payment will not replace DLA for those aged over 65 at the time the benefit is introduced.
• They can continue to receive DLA so long as they continue to satisfy the qualifying conditions.
• We want to see how the assessment for the new benefit works for people of working age before deciding if Personal Independence Payment should be extended to people over 65.

The above is the same for under 16, this doc here http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/personal-independence-payment-faqs.pdf

JS477

uponahill wrote: »

Given half a chance we would be a loy further forward than we are now.

To some extent the lib-dems have [slightly] curbed the nastiness that the tories would have dearly liked to have wreaked on the lives of the poorest and most vulnerable if they'd have had a free reign.

It just doesn't bear thinking about if they had of been allowed a free reign. :eek:

SueDerbyshire

I have read alot about PIP and the changes ahead but what I can't seem to find is when are they intending on bringing PIP in. Does anyone know when this will be?

Also, has it been agreed who will be assessed first? I was assessed last year after they had decided to make it harder to pass an assessment (ESA assessment - this was used to decide whether I was entitled to DLA, including my form and doctors reports etc). I was told at the time, it was harder than ever to pass and therefore recieve DLA (not sure if that was true). I was just thinking that they must have some idea who they feel needs to be assessed first, such as people who have not been assessed for a while. Any ideas?

Thank you.

Sue

schrodie

uponahill wrote: »

I get HRM & MRC indef. I too fully agree with the new PIP scheme. Hopefully it will rid those on DLA that don't deserve to have it.

With a fraud rate of <0.5% it would be nice to get it even lower than it already is.

uponahill

SueDerbyshire wrote: »

I have read alot about PIP and the changes ahead but what I can't seem to find is when are they intending on bringing PIP in. Does anyone know when this will be?

Also, has it been agreed who will be assessed first? I was assessed last year after they had decided to make it harder to pass an assessment (ESA assessment - this was used to decide whether I was entitled to DLA, including my form and doctors reports etc). I was told at the time, it was harder than ever to pass and therefore recieve DLA (not sure if that was true). I was just thinking that they must have some idea who they feel needs to be assessed first, such as people who have not been assessed for a while. Any ideas?

Thank you.

Sue

Hopefully the ones like the other poster who admits to never having been re-assessed for 9 years!!!!

uponahill

schrodie wrote: »

With a fraud rate of <0.5% it would be nice to get it even lower than it already is.

It's not just the fraud rate. It's the 'development' of what people now class as being disabled.

We really need to go back to basics and 'lose' those that claim these illnesses and conditions that no one can disprove, and look at what disability really actually means.

I get HRM & MRC and to be honest I cannot say that I am disabled.
Yes I tick the right boxes and give the right answers but surely there has to be more to it than that?

I can still go to the gym every week, I enjoy my food. OK I can hardly walk. Big deal! And my wife has to do a fair bit for me, which is what a marriage is about anyhow.

So am I disabled - no not really, am I considered to be disabled - well yes I am - So I must be disabled!! uummmmm.

zzzLazyDaisy

uponahill wrote: »

It's not just the fraud rate. It's the 'development' of what people now class as being disabled.

We really need to go back to basics and 'lose' those that claim these illnesses and conditions that no one can disprove, and look at what disability really actually means.

I get HRM & MRC and to be honest I cannot say that I am disabled.
Yes I tick the right boxes and give the right answers but surely there has to be more to it than that?

I can still go to the gym every week, I enjoy my food. OK I can hardly walk. Big deal! And my wife has to do a fair bit for me, which is what a marriage is about anyhow.

So am I disabled - no not really, am I considered to be disabled - well yes I am - So I must be disabled!! uummmmm.

You know, it is people like you who give DLA claimants a bad name. On your own admission you are not disabled, You go to the gym and don't need the help that DLA provides. So why don't you do the decent thing and stop claiming? Ahhhh... wait a minute, no you won't do that, because it is free money. You feel you are entitled, right?

Then there are people like me, who don't have a spouse to take care of them, who need 24 hr care and buy it in. People who really need the help that DLA provides. And you stand in moral judgement? NICE!!!!

schrodie

uponahill wrote: »

I get HRM & MRC and to be honest I cannot say that I am disabled. I can still go to the gym every week

Roll on PIP indeed!!! I bet you can't wait.